Black Monday: NFL Coaches and Executives Carousel

[Evilgrin]

Pretty sure radio just said Norv & AJ Smith got canned?

[Ruhskins]

HC & GM gone in Arizona and San Diego per Schefter.

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[CRedskinsRule]

25% of NFL head coaches fired today. A strong (but not perfect) theme, poor qb play. There aren't 8 next great qb's sitting out in FA/draft this year. Wonder what that means...

[skinsfan69]

Was Rivera actually fired?

[JoeRedskin]

This about sums it up:

Ryan has no right to be annoyed [that his fate is up in the air]. Let's face it, he did a poor job this season, mismanaging his quarterbacks and losing his team down the stretch. The Jets finished with three straight losses, falling to three terrible teams -- the Tennessee Titans, San Diego Chargers and Bills. They were outscored in those games, 69-36.

That's brutal. The players say they love Ryan and love playing for him, but they had a strange way of showing it.

New York Jets -- Rex Ryan probably won't be fired by Woody Johnson but needs to change his coaching - ESPN New York

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Several firings already from around the NFL

NY Jets: GM Mike Tannenbaum

Cleveland Browns: GM Tom Heckert and HC Pat Shurmur

Philadelphia Eagles: HC Andy Reid

Jacksonville Jaguars: GM Gene Smith

KC Chiefs: HC Romeo Crennel

Carolina Panthers: HC Ron Rivera

Chicago Bears: HC Lovie Smith

Buffalo Bills: HC Chan Gailey

How does Lovie Smith get fired? The Chicago Bears were 10-6 this year. I'm sure Lovie, like Tony Dungy before him, will land in a good situation with an excellent quarterback and win himself a super bowl in a few years.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

How does Lovie Smith get fired? The Chicago Bears were 10-6 this year. I'm sure Lovie, like Tony Dungy before him, will land in a good situation with an excellent quarterback and win himself a super bowl in a few years.

Uh, well, when last year you start 7-3 and miss the playoffs, and then this year you start 7-1 and miss the playoffs, you usually get fired.

I think Lovie Smith will definitely land on his feet again, but collapses like that are never good, especially not in consecutive seasons.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mooby

Uh, well, when last year you start 7-3 and miss the playoffs, and then this year you start 7-1 and miss the playoffs, you usually get fired.

I think Lovie Smith will definitely land on his feet again, but collapses like that are never good, especially not in consecutive seasons.

Pretty much what it comes down to. Two consecutive late season collapses will get you fired in this league more often than not. Plus he missed the playoffs 5 of his last 6 seasons.

Sucks for him... if he doesn't get another HC gig he's bound to end up with a DC job.

[GTripp0012]

I'm not comfortable with Lovie Smith getting fired; it doesn't sit well with me.

To be fair the Bears never tried to mislead the public into thinking Lovie was going to be safe this year and they made it pretty clear that his time there had run its course. But for a consistent winner to get fired following a 10-6 season because of the way the tiebreakers fell is pretty shitty, given how excited/emotional the responses and the futures are here to the same 10 wins and 6 losses.

The racial component isn't helping it sit well, even though I thoroughly believe that has nothing to do with it. It just makes a crappy situation (new GM parts ways with largely successful coach he didn't hire) look a lot worse than it is.

In Andy Reid's case, at least the Eagles waited for the team to fall apart on him before they pulled the trigger.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm not comfortable with Lovie Smith getting fired; it doesn't sit well with me.

To be fair the Bears never tried to mislead the public into thinking Lovie was going to be safe this year and they made it pretty clear that his time there had run its course. But for a consistent winner to get fired following a 10-6 season because of the way the tiebreakers fell is pretty shitty, given how excited/emotional the responses and the futures are here to the same 10 wins and 6 losses.

The racial component isn't helping it sit well, even though I thoroughly believe that has nothing to do with it. It just makes a crappy situation (new GM parts ways with largely successful coach he didn't hire) look a lot worse than it is.

In Andy Reid's case, at least the Eagles waited for the team to fall apart on him before they pulled the trigger.

Lovie Smith will indeed land somewhere else. By the Bears firing him, they are just doing another NFL franchise a huge favor much how the Bucs did to Tony Dungy and he landed with Indianapolis and won a SB.

With all Andy Reid accomplished in Philly, you know when the McNabb era was over things were going to head downhill for him and they did. For a team that finished at 8-8 last season, you knew the Eagles were on a decline and wouldn't improve in the least. This is very similar to Jim Zorn's 2 seasons with the Redskins.

[GTripp0012]

Lovie will be fine, I'm just not comfortable with it.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Lovie will be fine, I'm just not comfortable with it.

Was he responsible for giving Tice the OC job? Tice was terrible. And they had Martz before him?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Was he responsible for giving Tice the OC job? Tice was terrible. And they had Martz before him?

The pitfalls id like to avoid is giving the job to Kyle and he not do well if he not ready, or Kyle going to some other team right after we picker up our franchise QB and Kyle schemed around his abilities.

Let MS's contract go full term with son as OC. Give Kyle the title Asst HC. And hopefully in 2 yrs MS will give the position to son and dad keeps the front office job to help out if needed.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Wait, so you'd like to cut ties with mike now and just hand it to Kyle? I'm confused

I've never been pro succession plan in general, but Kyle is ready.

I'm not saying I believe Kyle will necessarily be the head coach here because this could be mikes job as long as he wants it. The situation I want to avoid is one where Kyle stays on as an overqualified OC waiting for his father to call it a career.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I've never been pro succession plan in general, but Kyle is ready.

I'm not saying I believe Kyle will necessarily be the head coach here because this could be mikes job as long as he wants it. The situation I want to avoid is one where Kyle stays on as an overqualified OC waiting for his father to call it a career.

Why would that be a bad thing for the Skins? Just curious what pitfalls you would be wanting to avoid