Skins vs Packers post game thread

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I think the bad offense exposes our bad defense.

People act like they were expecting to have a top 10 defense, hell we were 28th in defense last year. We have rookies in the secondary, no #1 CB, an old ass linebacker who should've hung it up... Did you expect something better?

One of the reasons we did so well last season? ...We had a functioning on all cylinders offense. When your offense works, then your defense doesn't HAVE to work as hard.

What you're seeing now is what we really are and always have been as of late. Don't act surprised now.

People are expecting that, because Cofield, Orakpo and other Redskins were saying "Theres no reason we shouldn't be a top 10 defense".

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

People are expecting that, because Cofield, Orakpo and other Redskins were saying "Theres no reason we shouldn't be a top 10 defense".

They should know better, but I wouldn't expect them to come out and say they suck and still need work.

But we should know better as well. I'll admit I thought with a healthy front 4 we'd take some heat off our secondary but they're still just as bad as ever.

As much as I lay the majority of the blame on the O, the defense still needs to do better, mostly in the stretch (after the half).

The Redskins D is just fundamentally bad. Crazy penalties, mind-boggling horrible tackling... I don't know how this can happen so consistently at the pro level.

[Meks]

I agree and saw 3 steo drops the whole rest of the game. Haslett f*cking failed

[The Goat]

It's easy to get overly worried about your players taking on the loser personality of the coaches and being unable to rebound as a group (under new leadership), but then you look at quality coaches like Harbough in San Fran and Reid now in KC, walk in and turn those teams around in just season.

Dan and Bruce need to grab the next quality HC who comes available at this point. Preferably mid season so that person can analyze players over the rest of the season and because it's just such an embarrassment having this kind of piss poor leadership over a whole season. Unprepared, undisciplined and horrible play calling with almost total lack of adjustments.

But you do have to worry about the shanahans ruining RG, and I hope Dan and Bruce are keeping a close eye on this situation. Four years we have an oline completely incapable of pass protecting against today's defenses. And that without any injuries! Gotta be proactive before this failed leadership completely destroys the only franchise QB we've had in decades.

[warriorzpath]

What kind of adjustments can Haslett make when they can't make the tackles and also hit and fill the gaps? It is his fault though that they can't tackle.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

What kind of adjustments can Haslett make when they can't make the tackles and also hit and fill the gaps? It is his fault though that they can't tackle.

The tackling portion is on the players, but it wasn't just tackling.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The tackling portion is on the players, but it wasn't just tackling.

Everything starts with tackling. And it also is Hasletts fault. I'm not going to sit here and argue the importance of tackling with anyone again. If you tackle, those quick passes are less effective and maybe they get away from that.

It changes the whole complexion of the game.

[RFKRat]

Pathetic display all around, again. Hype has given way to complete embarrassment. It all starts with poor preparation and attitude. Again Shanahan fails to have them ready to play on either side of the ball. People can sugar coat things all they want but this is a mess. They still are taking bad penalties (personal fouls, etc seem to be a hallmark of Shanahan's time here) and overall playing awful football with a depressing lack of fundamentals. I guess months of offseason wasn't enough time to get ready.

Loved Merriweather celebrating making a tackle, after his man picked up ten yards and a first down. Well done. That's the kind of attitude this team has had for months, just like the Nationals. Read their overhyped press clippings and basically figured they didn't have to work. And the Eagles and Packers have carved them up like roasts.

Ugly business.

[SouperMeister]

I hate that Kyle is keeping Griffin in the pocket like a sitting duck. Where are the bootlegs to get him to the edge? That was a staple in Shanny's Super Bowl years in Denver, and was used very successfully last year in Kirk's win over Cleveland.

[VTSkins1961]

RG3 is not 100% no matter what they say. Offense is exposed because of this. They key on Morris for the run and our o-line can't pass protect. This hurts the defense but there are way to many miss tackles being made.... Haslett - if defense does no better in the next 2 weeks should be gone... never liked him anyway. MS has to protect RG3. Makes me wonder if we should have waited until after the bye week to have RG3 start....

[warriorzpath]

If tackling is an issue, there needs to be some major time put into fixing that. They need to focus on the basics again. Tackling, catching, man coverage. In that order. They fixed the (rb) ball protection from last week but they still have these major issues still.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

If tackling is an issue, there needs to be some major time put into fixing that. They need to focus on the basics again. Tackling, catching, man coverage. In that order. They fixed the (rb) ball protection from last week but they still have these major issues still.

I would make them practice in full pads, full contact. This is a pitiful tackling team.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I would make them practice in full pads, full contact. This is a pitiful tackling team.

Are they even allowed to do that at this point? I know every team is at the same "disadvantage" but I think the lack of hitting in training camps is a big reason for a lot of the sloppy play.

[warriorzpath]

I'm not as down on Merriweather as everyone else is. At least he tackles and he hits hard. He is the best Redskins db on the field when he's out there.

[Lotus]

Everything went downhill after we cut Pat White.