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Old 12-16-2013, 11:04 AM   #1
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Why don't the sales and marketing people work over in Landover? That way they're away from the football people. Real simply process...the football people work one place, the sales people work in another place. Or they might already do that...
Some work at Landover, but most work at Redskins Park. Just like it would be for any NFL team
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:32 AM   #2
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RG really wasn't running a different offense. They just added the read option and ran it out of the pistol vs under center.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:16 PM   #3
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RG really wasn't running a different offense. They just added the read option and ran it out of the pistol vs under center.
Exactly. The read-option is merely a "plugin" to the normal Shanahan offense. It isn't a complete offense on its own. People don't seem to understand that.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:23 PM   #4
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RG really wasn't running a different offense. They just added the read option and ran it out of the pistol vs under center.

I shouldn't have stated a different offense, I should have stated, why didn't they run the offense and leave out adding anything in. Why even do the pistol if he needed reps at under center to survive in this league?
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:26 PM   #5
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I shouldn't have stated a different offense, I should have stated, why didn't they run the offense and leave out adding anything in. Why even do the pistol if he needed reps at under center to survive in this league?
Just look at the results last year, 10-6, rookie of the year, I don't think anyone can really argue with that. As SS said they had a 3 yr plan in mind, last year went so well (probably much better than they even expected) so they left well enough alone. The injury really took the plan off track.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:54 PM   #6
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Just look at the results last year, 10-6, rookie of the year, I don't think anyone can really argue with that. As SS said they had a 3 yr plan in mind, last year went so well (probably much better than they even expected) so they left well enough alone. The injury really took the plan off track.

Sure, you'll get good results on a short term level, but all it does is prolong the person's growth. Cam looked good under that modified offense he had his first year. Second year was pretty crappy, but I think much of that was him learning in his second season what he should have been learning in year one. Even at the beginning of the year he was struggling, then all of a sudden it's started clicking for him.
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I shouldn't have stated a different offense, I should have stated, why didn't they run the offense and leave out adding anything in. Why even do the pistol if he needed reps at under center to survive in this league?
You put your quarterback in the best situation to succeed. Letting RGIII run the read option and be in the pistol helped him a lot last year. This year, was supposed to be more of a transition away from the RO and then by year three, the hope was for RGIII to have developed into more of a pro style quarterback.
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Old 12-16-2013, 01:00 PM   #8
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RG really wasn't running a different offense. They just added the read option and ran it out of the pistol vs under center.
You are correct.

But IMO Gryphon and Cousins run the offense differently, even if it is essentially the same offense. And Cousins seems to run it more the way that the Shanahans want it to be. Cousins makes different, more "Shanahan" decisions that RGIII.

This might be a reason why RGIII was benched. Cousins seems to follow Shanny instructions more closely than RGIII.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:05 PM   #9
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We lose Bruce and this place is totally F--ked.
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We lose Bruce and this place is totally F--ked.
I get the same feeling
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Old 12-16-2013, 07:29 PM   #11
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Re: Goodbye Kyle?

I love Cousins, and I hope we can snag a second and a fourth round pick or something like that for him in the offseason, lord knows we need the pick. But, is it just me, or did some of his balls look to float yesterday, or lack the mustard one would expect, even though it looked like he was stepping up and putting his ass behind his throws a bit?
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I love Cousins, and I hope we can snag a second and a fourth round pick or something like that for him in the offseason, lord knows we need the pick. But, is it just me, or did some of his balls look to float yesterday, or lack the mustard one would expect, even though it looked like he was stepping up and putting his ass behind his throws a bit?
For the most part, his passes looked like laser beams.

I don't remember but there may have been some passes that he threw under duress where he didn't have much follow through.
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:27 PM   #13
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I love Cousins, and I hope we can snag a second and a fourth round pick or something like that for him in the offseason, lord knows we need the pick. But, is it just me, or did some of his balls look to float yesterday, or lack the mustard one would expect, even though it looked like he was stepping up and putting his ass behind his throws a bit?
first thing i thought was i dont remember his arm being this strong. the pics were bad throws that were late. not a lot of timing between him and our WOs. probably from lack of work
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:06 PM   #14
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I love Cousins, and I hope we can snag a second and a fourth round pick or something like that for him in the offseason, lord knows we need the pick. But, is it just me, or did some of his balls look to float yesterday, or lack the mustard one would expect, even though it looked like he was stepping up and putting his ass behind his throws a bit?
IMO Cousins has an adequately strong arm. I worry about his accuracy and decision-making, since these were problems he had in college and appears to struggle with still. When Cousins misses his target, he often misses by a big margin and his passes then get picked, as we saw against Atlanta.
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Old 12-17-2013, 03:22 PM   #15
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IMO Cousins has an adequately strong arm. I worry about his accuracy and decision-making, since these were problems he had in college and appears to struggle with still. When Cousins misses his target, he often misses by a big margin and his passes then get picked, as we saw against Atlanta.
All of that could be said of RGIII too.
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