Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

For everyone that's down on Dalton, he actually had some monster games this year. He had 33 td's, his turnovers were obviously up but let's not act like Dalton is a garbage QB. He's made the playoffs every year and his numbers got better every year. To me that's a positive. Whether Gruden prefers Griff's style over a Cousins type? ...we'll see. But I would also think that Gruden isn't going to be loyal to either guy.

Dalton is not garbage but he is average. I don't think that Dalton is good enough to ever take the Bengals to the SB.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

For everyone that's down on Dalton, he actually had some monster games this year. He had 33 td's, his turnovers were obviously up but let's not act like Dalton is a garbage QB. He's made the playoffs every year and his numbers got better every year. To me that's a positive. Whether Gruden prefers Griff's style over a Cousins type? ...we'll see. But I would also think that Gruden isn't going to be loyal to either guy.

He will if Danny says he will

[Ruhskins]

I'm fine with the Jay Gruden hire, experienced NFL OC from a team that has had three straight playoff appearances with a 30-18 record in a competitive AFC North. He has made something out of nothing in Andy Dalton. We didn't go for the splashy hire, retread coach, some guy out of retirement or a college coach experiment.

[FRPLG]

I'll say this about Haz. At various times our D looked absolutely outclassed and incapable of doing anything. That's reflective of the talent more than anything. Knowing that and considering at times they also looked almost good for stretches perhaps maybe Haz did a better job than we think given the talent level, Note: this is my eternal optimism shining through I am pretty sure.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I'll say this about Haz. At various times our D looked absolutely outclassed and incapable of doing anything. That's reflective of the talent more than anything. Knowing that and considering at times they also looked almost good for stretches perhaps maybe Haz did a better job than we think given the talent level, Note: this is my eternal optimism shining through I am pretty sure.

Just tell me who called the prevent defense on 4th down and goal against Dallas. If Shanny overruled Haz, then OK, I might be judging Haz too harshly. But if Haz called it, then he needs to get the **** out of town - now!

[Paintrain]

I'm ok with it, not excited, not disappointed. He's coming in with his eyes wide open with his relationships already in the building and I'd think that if there were serious concerns about Robert being coachable or his relationship with Snyder, they would have warned him off. Also the promotion of Sean McVay to OC means those two have a good relationship and a foundation to work from.

Bottom line, the roster has to improve in key spots and the noise/drama needs to stop in order for this to be successful.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'm ok with it, not excited, not disappointed. He's coming in with his eyes wide open with his relationships already in the building and I'd think that if there were serious concerns about Robert being coachable or his relationship with Snyder, they would have warned him off. Also the promotion of Sean McVay to OC means those two have a good relationship and a foundation to work from.

Bottom line, the roster has to improve in key spots and the noise/drama needs to stop in order for this to be successful.

Bingo.

[Lotus]

Forget the Jetskins. We have become the BucsTuskers, with Allen, Gruden, Haslett, and McVay all having recent ties to Tampa and/or Florida Tuskers.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Forget the Jetskins. We have become the BucsTuskers, with Allen, Gruden, Haslett, and McVay all having recent ties to Tampa and/or Florida Tuskers.

All of them are more politically correct nicknames than our current one.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Forget the Jetskins. We have become the BucsTuskers, with Allen, Gruden, Haslett, and McVay all having recent ties to Tampa and/or Florida Tuskers.

Lol! Nice. Joe Theisman was a partial team owner of the Tuskers and Doug Williams was the Tuskers General Manager. Don't forget the Shottenheimer (Marty and Kurt) angle with the Tuskers/Destroyers. Oh yeah, Kurt Gouveia was the linebackers coach and Mike stock the special Teams coach. There's probably 100 other people that have Tusker - Redskins connections in the past 4 years...

[D.BUTZ65]

Awesome, more of the great Haslett defense. Now I'm really excited.

[MTK]

I don't mind Haz staying. He was forced into running the 34 here and had Shanny looking over his shoulder and even making play calls. Safe to say he wasn't given a true shot to run the D.

I really like McVay getting bumped up.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't mind Haz staying. He was forced into running the 34 here and had Shanny looking over his shoulder and even making play calls. Safe to say he wasn't given a true shot to run the D.

I really like McVay getting bumped up.

Same here.

[cdskins26]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't mind Haz staying. He was forced into running the 34 here and had Shanny looking over his shoulder and even making play calls. Safe to say he wasn't given a true shot to run the D.

I really like McVay getting bumped up.

Not to mention given his personnel I doubt buddy Ryan could have coached them into a top 10 defense. I think it would be in our best interest to go back to the 4-3, and if they think haslett can be the guy to build that I'd be willing to give it a shot

[skinsfaninok]

I just don't get the Haslett deal