Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions

[Chico23231]

i want to revisit the last play of the first half.

First, remove all throwable objects within 3 feet of you.

Then, pull the play up in your head. Lets all pause and remember.

Now sit in disbelief.

Reflect on our disaster at QB

[NC_Skins]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...41440164910242


A good breakdown on all the hits on RGIII. Some of these can be avoided by sliding in pocket and changing protection scheme at line.

[30gut]

Was at the game last night so I want to watch the TC feed. But here quick thoughts...


Plusses:

-Its only preseason *ducks head*

-RBs looked good from RB1 to RB4

-2nd team offense looked good. 2nd team OL actually had more playing experience then 1st unit. 2nd unit had Compton at LT vs Smith and Moses staying at RT.

-2nd-3rd team QBs looked good

-2nd-3rd team playcalling was good

-Back-up TEs made some plays in the passing game

Defense:

-First unit defense was better then last week

-Amerson was active and in position

-Dash, Duke were more active


This thread has quickly turned into Griffenfest! lol

[Defensewins]

I have not seen either game this year, but results and comments here are what I expected. This is preseason and most lose sight of trying young players out and that are most likely not ready yet. So much impatience. Give them growing pain xperience now. Not week 1.
RG3 continuing to show poorly despite all the excuses is disappointing. The 4th year player needs to show something more than he has. Time to bust out of his slump. How long has it been since he has played well consistently over a period of time? Three years ago? The time is now for him to show something. The RG3 apologists need to stop making excuses for him.
I would love for him to earn his his starting position. Please do not gift it to him while he is playing poorly.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

RG3 continuing to show poorly despite all the excuses is disappointing....The RG3 apologists need to stop making excuses for him.

Hmmmnnn....

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I have not seen either game this year, but

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I have not seen either game this year, but results and comments here are what I expected. This is preseason and most lose sight of trying young players out and that are most likely not ready yet. So much impatience. Give them growing pain xperience now. Not week 1.
RG3 continuing to show poorly despite all the excuses is disappointing. The 4th year player needs to show something more than he has. Time to bust out of his slump. How long has it been since he has played well consistently over a period of time? Three years ago? The time is now for him to show something. The RG3 apologists need to stop making excuses for him.
I would love for him to earn his his starting position. Please do not gift it to him while he is playing poorly.

You put a top 10 QB in there last night, same circumstances, same play call...You get a much better result. period.

But no we got to make excuses for a 4th year QB who continues to play like crap. Cant read a blitz, misses receivers running open, doesnt go/recognize hot reads, has terrible pocket presence, etc.

Its like we are talking about a rookie QB

[30gut]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ions-redskins/
Redskins

–First-round pick Brandon Scherff (-3.0 grade) started at right guard for the second week in a row and struggled with Lions defensive tackle Tyrunn Walker. The former Saint beat Scherff for a sack and worked through and around Scherff for disruption in the running game as well.

–Rookie running back Matt Jones impressed on his eight carries last night, breaking a tackle to pick up a 24-yard gain through the heart of the Lions defense. He capped that drive with a one-yard touchdown run.

— Pressured on six of his eight dropbacks, Robert Griffin III’s three incompletions came about by way of a dropped pass, a batted pass and being hit as he threw. His supporting cast ensured that aside from ball security (two fumbles — the primary reasons behind his -3.8 grade), there was little or nothing to draw from his performance.

Top 5 graded players:

Shawn Lauvao (+2.0)

Ty Nsekhe (+2.0)

Jason Hatcher (+1.9)

Josh LeRibeus (+1.7)

Robert Thomas (+1.6)

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by 30gut

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ions-redskins/
Redskins

–First-round pick Brandon Scherff (-3.0 grade) started at right guard for the second week in a row and struggled with Lions defensive tackle Tyrunn Walker. The former Saint beat Scherff for a sack and worked through and around Scherff for disruption in the running game as well.

–Rookie running back Matt Jones impressed on his eight carries last night, breaking a tackle to pick up a 24-yard gain through the heart of the Lions defense. He capped that drive with a one-yard touchdown run.

— Pressured on six of his eight dropbacks, Robert Griffin III’s three incompletions came about by way of a dropped pass, a batted pass and being hit as he threw. His supporting cast ensured that aside from ball security (two fumbles — the primary reasons behind his -3.8 grade), there was little or nothing to draw from his performance.

Top 5 graded players:

Shawn Lauvao (+2.0)

Ty Nsekhe (+2.0)

Jason Hatcher (+1.9)

Josh LeRibeus (+1.7)

Robert Thomas (+1.6)

McRib was a top rated player? I have no idea how to feel about this.

[Chico23231]

its just funny as hell to hear folks say RG3 performance was just fine. Outside the fumbles, everything he did was fine. Wasnt his fault, playcalling and Oline. *sigh*

we are conditioned for these low expectations

[CRedskinsRule]

his performance that can be graded is two fumbles, one completely unforced, a sustained concussion, his 2nd(3rd) one in the league, and the offense just looked wrong.

If he's the best, fine, but at least open the competition up for the rest of the camp instead of handing the job to a mediocre starter.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

his performance that can be graded is two fumbles, one completely unforced, a sustained concussion, his 2nd(3rd) one in the league, and the offense just looked wrong.

If he's the best, fine, but at least open the competition up for the rest of the camp instead of handing the job to a mediocre starter.

Mediocre? At this point RGIII would have to improve a lot to be considered average.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

his performance that can be graded is two fumbles, one completely unforced, a sustained concussion, his 2nd(3rd) one in the league, and the offense just looked wrong.

Sure he should be negatively graded for the fumbles (which I've said several times) but only the most jaded person would grade him down for sustaining a concussion. And the offense 'just looked wrong' isn't just a function of Griffin, its a function of the team to include individual personnel match-ups and gameplan/playcalling decisions.

If he's the best, fine, but at least open the competition up for the rest of the camp instead of handing the job to a mediocre starter.

Amen. It should have been an open competition. That way if Griffin or whomever would win the job out right thus eliminating the spectre of the hidden boogieman theories.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Amen. It should have been an open competition. That way if Griffin or whomever would win the job out right thus eliminating the spectre of the hidden boogieman theories.

This is the Redskins, look at the last 2 decades.
We are one of the few franchises where the boogieman is real.

You can actually watch him try to boogie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrfdrrSfLdU

[mredskins]

Sounds like RG will be ready for ravens.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sounds like RG will be ready for ravens.