Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan

[MTK]

Another player, however, characterized McCloughan as frequently drunk but never thought much about it because his behavior and comportment never changed.

The portrait the team official painted Thursday was starkly different — that of an employee whose dependency impaired his ability to function on the job and who failed to respond to multiple attempts at recovery.

“He’s been drunk at work,” the team official said. “He’s been drunk at games.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.b3497cabaae0

Frequently drunk, drunk at work, drunk at games. FFS what are we arguing about here? There's just no defending this behavior. Doesn't matter if it affects his ability to do the job or not, you can't show up to work drunk bottom line, end of story. They probably could have canned him a long time ago.

It's also worth pointing out they fired him for cause. That means they likely have some strong documentation to back it up.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Frequently drunk, drunk at work, drunk at games. FFS what are we arguing about here? There's just no defending this behavior. Doesn't matter if it affects his ability to do the job or not, you can't show up to work drunk bottom line, end of story. They probably could have canned him a long time ago.

It's also worth pointing out they fired him for cause. That means they likely have some strong documentation to back it up.

If he was doing all that then yes they did have cause to terminate him. Wonder what got the drinking started to begin with? Friction with Bruce Allen from the get go?


But doesn't this also say something?

https://twitter.com/Eman_dc21/status/840009852214743040

[Evilgrin]

Yup Cooley had marching orders on the radio.

[Chico23231]

Not really buying the whole raging drunk stories...doesn't pass the smell test. This is something the media you would think would have wrote about before. Lot of conflicting statements about McC...what is clear is the power struggle and bruce lying to McC about his roles and marginalizing his authority. I simply think the front office fucked this us big time...I can't trust Snyder and Bruce period. They are slimey characters with bad track records of personael and football decisions.

[sdskinsfan2001]

That's one situation settled. Next offer Cousins 5 years 115 million with 60 guaranteed. If he doesn't take it trade him for whatever you can get and move on.

Note - SM probably was saucing again but BA definitely seems like a big weasel IMHO.

[Evilgrin]

With every rumor and leak that hits the media, how come nothing started until Cooley started speculating.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

With every rumor and leak that hits the media, how come nothing started until Cooley started speculating.

That's what I'm saying...doesn't smell right. This is something that seems like would have been news. Washington media and shit stains like florio would have put this out if this was true imo.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

That's what I'm saying...doesn't smell right. This is something that seems like would have been news. Washington media and shit stains like florio would have put this out if this was true imo.

It does not meet your smell test because you have a hard on for Cooley. For weeks you have been bagging on him for speculating Scot had been drinking again. Scot, an alcoholic that acknowledged he never really quite drinking.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

That's what I'm saying...doesn't smell right. This is something that seems like would have been news. Washington media and shit stains like florio would have put this out if this was true imo.

Who cares at this point. The outcome was rather obvious as this crap has been going on for a couple weeks. There was a difference of opinion and Scot hung himself with the booze, just like his last two gigs. When the wifey tweeted that bit about the rings, including her wedding band, that told me that a lot of it was indeed personal. I hope the guy gets his life together and gets sober at this point. To be honest, I think he was a bit overhyped. This past draft really was mediocre, and if Doctson turns into Taylor Jacobs 2.0, then it would have sucked. Dwelling over a done deed is a waste of time. The handling of Kirk has been terrible. I just don't see him with us past 2017, and we might only get a 3rd rounder for him, when we could have had an additional first rounder this year. Too much bad blood out there now. Should just blow it up and get a new youngster.

[Schneed10]

I fully understand the vitriol towards Allen and Snyder. But I don't get why that necessitates that we defend McCloughan. Guys, he was fired from San Fran for drinking. He was fired from Seattle for drinking. And he was clearly drinking again here (if the photos don't tell you that then let me just say I'm glad you're nowhere near the healthcare profession).

He had to go. Remember when Doctson hurt his Achilles and McC punched the wall and busted up his hand? Can you have a drunk around the office losing control of himself like that in a building full of administrative assistants, other scouts, etc? Obviously not.

Is this solely about McC drinking? Absolutely not. Allen's ego plays a major role. The primary role, even. But it doesn't matter. You can't be drunk and volatile on the job. He's batting 1.000 on getting fired this way, it's a no brainer.

Time to look forward. At this point my concern is that Jay needs to be in charge of the draft room.

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I fully understand the vitriol towards Allen and Snyder. But I don't get why that necessitates that we defend McCloughan. Guys, he was fired from San Fran for drinking. He was fired from Seattle for drinking. And he was clearly drinking again here (if the photos don't tell you that then let me just say I'm glad you're nowhere near the healthcare profession).



He had to go. Remember when Doctson hurt his Achilles and McC punched the wall and busted up his hand? Can you have a drunk around the office losing control of himself like that in a building full of administrative assistants, other scouts, etc? Obviously not.



Is this solely about McC drinking? Absolutely not. Allen's ego plays a major role. The primary role, even. But it doesn't matter. You can't be drunk and volatile on the job. He's batting 1.000 on getting fired this way, it's a no brainer.



Time to look forward. At this point my concern is that Jay needs to be in charge of the draft room.

Bingo.

[SFREDSKIN]

Love this:

Bruce Allen had his Wikipedia page sabotaged

[Alvin Walton]

I thought OB Jr. was the guy that punched the wall.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I thought OB Jr. was the guy that punched the wall.

He had a fight against the FG net and lost.

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[SmootSmack]

As Matty can tell you guys, because I shared it with him a while ago, I've been talking with other media guys for a couple of months now about seeing and reading about McCloughan being (or at least looking) quite drunk (really was noticeable at the Senior Bowl). To be clear, I personally didn't see it. But heard from multiple people I trust, all outside the organization. Of course that's a serious and personal issue so it's not something you just blurt out. We were all pretty stunned when Cooley said it on air. I mean you just don't do that.

Around that time, I got a tip that McCloughan had not been a Redskins Park and let one of the reporters know. A handful of us started to see what was going on, vetting it through various sources. Dismissing some as not being reliable. The one constant we heard from McCloughan to his agent to Redskins officials was "Don't worry, I'll (he'll) be at the combine." Agents started calling reporters and a couple of reporters called me "Where's Scot? The rest of the team is here" And that's when the rest of the commotion started.

Now beside the drinking, I did hear reports of "power struggles" the last few months but honestly had just dismissed it as healthy discussions and figured I was primarily centered around Scot and Jay vs. Bruce and Dan on Kirk Cousins.