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Old 09-10-2017, 11:37 PM   #1
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Can we move Long to LG and start Chase at C? We need to try something different. We get no push up front at all. Makes running the ball really difficult.


We really need two big nasties at LG and C. Bunch of cupcake softies in the middle. Moses I'm giving the side eye too. How Luvao keeps skirting by year after year is baffling.


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Old 09-11-2017, 05:29 AM   #2
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We really need two big nasties at LG and C. Bunch of cupcake softies in the middle. Moses I'm giving the side eye too. How Luvao keeps skirting by year after year is baffling.


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what bothers me so much is o-line play was really a staple around here for so long. and now with this current group they can't move a college team off the ball. they're warm butter soft.
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Old 09-11-2017, 12:24 AM   #3
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Re: Ugly week 1 again... Post game thread.

Covering tight ends continues to be a problem as well. We made Ertz look like a prime Tony Gonzalez. That needs to improve asap. Really don't want to see Carrier catch a TD against us.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:25 AM   #4
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Can't ask KC to throw 40 plus times with pressure all game long and run 17? That's a recipe for disaster. He needs better balance and a running game. His int's seem to suck the life out of the team. You simply have to come away with 3 there and he let the team down on that one. Gotta do better Kirk.

The o-line was overpowered all game long. Period. Those guys should be ashamed of that performance.

How about giving Docston some of Pryor's reps? That drop coming off the goaline late in the game was crucial.

D was better and they played well enough to win. Hell they scored. But we still see some of the same things... can't get off the field on 3rd down, can't cover a te. Swearinger is just lost when he's out in space.

It's a week to week league but if we lose to fucking McVay then the fanbase is going to erupt. Time to put on your big boy pants Jay... and Kirk.
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I refuse to make every bad play by Kirk a contract referendum.
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Old 09-11-2017, 08:50 AM   #6
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I refuse to make every bad play by Kirk a contract referendum.
wow that's shocking coming from Czabe. Man I miss that morning show.

But he's right...and at the sametime there are expectations that come along with 44 mil over 2 years and turning down a sizable contract. Just sayin'
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Kirk definitely needs to pick up his play, but so does the line and the receivers.
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Kirk definitely needs to pick up his play, but so does the line and the receivers.
As does the staff, offense is too predictable. Play action doesn't work when u dont even try and run the ball. Perine didn't get 1 carry yesterday... Kelly had maybe 10 without looking at the stats. We beat ourselves, philly is ok but we should have won.
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Kirk definitely needs to pick up his play, but so does the line and the receivers.
Agree 100%. Everyone from the HC on down needs to pick it up.
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Kirk definitely needs to pick up his play, but so does the line and the receivers.
Yup. I'd say everybody shares the blame on this one. Several things stood out to me, like Morgan Moses getting beat, along with Long and Lauvao. Pryor needs to step up, I knew his run blocking would be a drop off from Garcon's but there were several times his poor effort led to run plays not getting past the LOS. Not to mention the dropped balls or his inability to track down the deep ball early. Doctson obviously needs to get his shit in order, no idea why he's 4th on the depth chart. And we all saw the inaccurate throws by Kirk, I have no idea why that's happening but we don't stand a chance if he can't deliver an accurate pass. Not sure if it's the pressure throwing him off or his mechanics are off but he needs to be better.
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Yup. I'd say everybody shares the blame on this one. Several things stood out to me, like Morgan Moses getting beat, along with Long and Lauvao. Pryor needs to step up, I knew his run blocking would be a drop off from Garcon's but there were several times his poor effort led to run plays not getting past the LOS. Not to mention the dropped balls or his inability to track down the deep ball early. Doctson obviously needs to get his shit in order, no idea why he's 4th on the depth chart. And we all saw the inaccurate throws by Kirk, I have no idea why that's happening but we don't stand a chance if he can't deliver an accurate pass. Not sure if it's the pressure throwing him off or his mechanics are off but he needs to be better.


Because the coaches have a hard on for Ryan Grant. However he was decent yesterday.


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Because the coaches have a hard on for Ryan Grant. However he was decent yesterday.


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I think its Cooley twitter and re-tweet by Keim where Cooley points out that Grant got a screen but went outside instead of inside running the ball.

Cost the Skins 6 points. If Grant would have cut it inside it was a TD.

I fuckin hate the guy.
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When it comes to the performance of the Oline yesterday...Luavo and Long weren't the issue....Schreff and Moses were bad. These were 2 who were best at that positions last. Shocking to me.
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:58 AM   #14
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Its going be a long season. If we lose next week, hello 0-4 bye week. I was hoping we got this win plus next weeks and drop the next 2 and be 2-2 at the bye. Sigh.

The Reed toe injury is very concerning. Doctson is just at this point Malcolm Kelly 2. I think the lost of PG and DJAx sprinkled with no Sean McVay is just going to totally expose KC for who is; nothing special.

The defense seemed somewhat improved.

Oh well; frees up my Sundays.
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Old 09-11-2017, 10:11 AM   #15
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If we go 0-4 then I would seriously look at major changes ..Head coach, Cousins..etc .Bottom line I am glad the Skins did NOT pay Cousins the money he wanted on long term deal..he is a 10-15 mil a year QB ..if somebody wants to pay him 20-25 then go ahead and good for Cousins ..I'm just glad we won't be the team.. Gruden is on hot seat ..way to soft of a coach..The D looked like a different team because they have a D coach who gets them fired up ! Gruden is head of the O and they are soft ..we win yesterday with Average QB play and a Bruising running game.. The secret to winning a lot of games is Don't beat yourself..No turn overs. The O looked like it was the second pre season game..Cousins will not come close to last years stats and it will cost him millions..
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