Welcome Jahan Dotson, WR PSU - 1st Round Pick

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He also killed Michigan St., Michigan, OSU, Auburn, Wisconsin, etc. He’s a playmaker who can do it all, he could be our future Gary Clark.

You can never have too many playmakers and I agree he can do it all

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

Don't hate this pick at all. Got a playmaking WR and an extra 3rd and 4th. Seems like a great kid with arguably the best hands in the draft. He was a one man wrecking crew at PSU and wasn't doing it all against inferior competition.

This is about where I am. I don't feel about this one like I did when Jonathan Allen slid all the way down to us and we got what felt like an absolute bargain. But I can definitely see how Dotson could be a big help for the next five years. From a moneyball perspective, a productive WR on a rookie deal is about as good as it gets. That's why so many went in the first round.

Secondly, any grade on this pick is incomplete. You have to wait and see who we get with the 3rd and 4th rounders we acquired in the deal. Don't forget, and this is not directed at you Matty it's directed at the 'hate the pick' crowd; it's Dotson plus __ plus __ vs Jameson Williams or Kyle Hamilton at 11. It's not Dotson vs.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Secondly, any grade on this pick is incomplete. You have to wait and see who we get with the 3rd and 4th rounders we acquired in the deal. Don't forget, and this is not directed at you Matty it's directed at the 'hate the pick' crowd; it's Dotson plus __ plus __ vs Jameson Williams or Kyle Hamilton at 11. It's not Dotson vs.

Exactly

[JWsleep]

For me, the trade down was crucial--nice move. They went with their top WR on the board at that point. Fine. Also will return punts? If we get talent in this deep draft in the 3rd and 4th, it's a win. If the kid balls like he did at PSU, win-win. Grading talent in drafts is a hard job, despite all the mocks out there...

[Redskins 2021]

Not best or Worst pick. Had a feeling we were taking him yesterday he played at our local high school in town and word was that they were taking him. I wanted Hamilton guess the front office did not like him.

[skinsfaninok]

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think when they dropped down to 16 they were hoping Olave or Jameson Williams would be there, they won’t say that publicly of course. Slightly disappointing that it didn’t work out that way, because Olave plus the two picks would have been a coup.

Nevertheless the 3rd and the 4th rounder we picked up here should help us add two strong contributors, both of those picks will probably be guys with 2nd round grades thanks to this deep draft.

Originally Posted by vallin21

I agree. They thought Hamilton, Olave, or Williams would fall to 16. That didn’t happen so they panicked and took Dotson. Getting the extra 3rd and 4th helps, but I’m convinced we could’ve traded down to the 20’s, grabbed an extra pick or two, and still got Dotson.

I think the best way to look at this pick is, they dropped down to 16 knowing full well that Olave, Williams, and Hamilton probably wouldn't be there, and getting 3rd and 4th round picks was more valuable to them than those three players. Who knows (you don't), Dotson may have been graded as high or higher on their board than those three. You drop down to the 20s and you're probably out of 1st round worthy receivers at that point - otherwise GB or KC would have come away with one.

He's not a big guy, a couple inches shorter than Williams and Olave, but gimme a break. He's seven pounds lighter than Williams with better hands and a better knee, he's four pounds lighter than Olave with better hands and as good a route runner, and he's just as fast as both of them.

I know it's easy to hate this team and EVERY decision they make, but quite honestly not everything they do is wrong, disappointing, or reactionary...

In my opinion, this is a Big W on day 1 of the draft.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think the best way to look at this pick is, they dropped down to 16 knowing full well that Olave, Williams, and Hamilton probably wouldn't be there, and getting 3rd and 4th round picks was more valuable to them than those three players. Who knows (you don't), Dotson may have been graded as high or higher on their board than those three. You drop down to the 20s and you're probably out of 1st round worthy receivers at that point - otherwise GB or KC would have come away with one.

He's not a big guy, a couple inches shorter than Williams and Olave, but gimme a break. He's seven pounds lighter than Williams with better hands and a better knee, he's four pounds lighter than Olave with better hands and as good a route runner, and he's just as fast as both of them.

I know it's easy to hate this team and EVERY decision they make, but quite honestly not everything they do is wrong, disappointing, or reactionary...

In my opinion, this is a Big W on day 1 of the draft.

You are probably overreacting to my stance, at least the way I phrased it. Can't say about the other person you quoted.

But yeah it's entirely possible Dotson ends up better than those other guys and if so it proves them right. It's certainly not the consensus, hell the kid said himself that he and his agent thought they were going late first early 2nd. Even he thinks he got overdrafted.

As for whether every decision this team makes is wrong or disappointing, sure. I think I'd rather have Dotson plus what a 3 and a 4 can bring us, than whoever they could have drafted at 11.

But at the same time let's not be too kind to this team either. They're 156-212-1 under Snyder. So if we're being honest, most of their decisions haven't been great ones.

It's OK to like this move but not love it. It's a B.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think the best way to look at this pick is, they dropped down to 16 knowing full well that Olave, Williams, and Hamilton probably wouldn't be there, and getting 3rd and 4th round picks was more valuable to them than those three players. Who knows (you don't), Dotson may have been graded as high or higher on their board than those three. You drop down to the 20s and you're probably out of 1st round worthy receivers at that point - otherwise GB or KC would have come away with one.

He's not a big guy, a couple inches shorter than Williams and Olave, but gimme a break. He's seven pounds lighter than Williams with better hands and a better knee, he's four pounds lighter than Olave with better hands and as good a route runner, and he's just as fast as both of them.

I know it's easy to hate this team and EVERY decision they make, but quite honestly not everything they do is wrong, disappointing, or reactionary...

In my opinion, this is a Big W on day 1 of the draft.

Since you quoted my post; I’ll preface once again. *In my opinion* it’s a good pick, Dotson’s a good player, and I’m glad we added two picks; BUT *In my opinion* He would’ve been available in the 20’s. We’ll agree to disagree.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Maybe I'm overreacting, I don't know. I just find it funny how fans seem to think they know what's going on in the draft room, like they dropped down thinking this guy or that guy would still be available, or they panicked and took the other guy...

I just don't see much difference between Olave, Williams, and Dotson to be honest. They probably had them similarly rated or I don't think they make the trade at all. Olave and Williams were projected to go higher, yes. However, they also had CJ Stroud and Bryce Young throwing to them - the consensus top two QBs for the 2023 draft, not Sean Clifford.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Maybe I'm overreacting, I don't know. I just find it funny how fans seem to think they know what's going on in the draft room, like they dropped down thinking this guy or that guy would still be available, or they panicked and took the other guy...

I just don't see much difference between Olave, Williams, and Dotson to be honest. They probably had them similarly rated or I don't think they make the trade at all. Olave and Williams were projected to go higher, yes. However, they also had CJ Stroud and Bryce Young throwing to them - the consensus top two QBs for the 2023 draft, not Sean Clifford.

That's an extremely fair point and honestly when I heard Ron mention it during an interview it intrigued me for sure. It's the same thing we say about Terry having to play with dreck at QB over the last few years, his numbers would be bigger if he had a better QB throwing to him.

[Chico23231]

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-james...at-deep-threat

Some analysis of Jameson Williams who may have missed it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-james...at-deep-threat

Some analysis of Jameson Williams who may have missed it.

No offense to Dotson, hopefully he turns out to be a great player. But this dude was the best player in the draft and I felt we should have drafted him. He just killed Georgia ( and many others) who basically had an NFL defense.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I think people should be killing the Saints for trading a 3rd, 4th, and #16 overall for Chris Olave. He's a nice receiver, but he definitely wasn't worth that, and could very well have been there at 16.

[Bigreds77]

I like the pick and also getting a 3rd and 4th round pick