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Old 09-19-2022, 09:42 PM   #1
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First of all, I think the Jaguars and the Lions are much better teams than they were last year (and Washington may not be). Are we lucky to be 1-1 - probably. Could we be 2-0 - yep. That said, I'm not too mad about going 1-1 after playing the Jags at home and the Lions on the road. I still think this team can be at least 2-2 after four games, and that's where most thought they would be. I'm still giving the team/players/coaches until after week four before I decide what we really have going on this year.

So far, I think the offense is legit, but the defense is so frustrating. Collectively, they just are not getting it done consistently. Too many big plays, and the inability to stop the run is mind-boggling.

Specific to the Detroit game though, I think it just boils down to who wanted it more after the clock started. I can't say it was the game plan, or really direct too much blame toward the coaches. The players got beat at every position group in the 1st half. To me, the Detroit players came to play from the jump, and the Commanders did not. I'll give them credit for making some adjustments and making it interesting in the 2nd half, but there's no excuse for what we saw in the 1st half. There's as much talent on this team as there is on Detroit's, but that doesn't matter if the effort is half-ass; or if you just expect to go in somewhere and get the W, but instead get slapped in the face. Ultimately yes, it's on the Coaches if the players aren't ready to go. But in reality the professional football players wearing burgundy and gold just didn't match the intensity of their opponent, dug themselves a hole, and were unable to recover. If it was a 90 minute game, they win 51-50...lol

I hope this one leaves a really bad taste for all of them.
Agree overall.
I do think even JDR made a decent job at mixing up personnel and looks and making some adjustment. I do think it was a matter of intensity and will to win, and while I agree players have their personal responsibility in that, when it's the whole team it does point to bad coaching IMO. Ron isn't getting em fired up.
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Old 09-19-2022, 12:54 PM   #2
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- Go to Fedex today for the Andrews air show
- Get my 14k steps in and spend 8 hours roasting in the 90 degree heat
- Absolutely exhausted
- Make it back to Fedex somehow without hearing what the score is despite my Redskins hat
- Walking back to car, strike up convo with Fedex parking lot staffer and cop, start talking football
- First thing out of my mouth is "just don't tell me anything about the Skins game today, I recorded it"
- Parking lot staffer immediately says "they played a tough one today, came up just short against the Lions"
- Jaw drops like wtf did I just say?
- Traffic sucks, almost 2 hours to get home
- Get home turn game on anyways, wtf is wrong with picture?
- Fucking Verizon Fios, I recorded the game on 5 instead of 505 - have to watch the Skins lose in low-def.
- Fucking watch our yearly "this is the most embarrassing half of football I've ever seen" meltdown in low-def.
- Fuckin JDR man. Jesus fuck.
- Can't fucking win when you have to play an immaculate half of football just to come back from 3 score deficit.
- Fucking paper tiger defense you wack motherfuckers.
this legit made me laugh out loud at my desk at work..
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Old 09-18-2022, 09:56 PM   #3
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@ChadwikoTWW
I've seen enough.

Jack Del Rio should be fired as Defensive Coordinator.

Make Chris Harris interim DC for rest of 2022.

Young talented defenders not developing
Guys playing out of position
Man coverage corners being played in a soft zone D
No improvement from 2021

It's time.
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Old 09-18-2022, 10:02 PM   #4
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JDR sucks. But Rivera keeps him around. Fire the disease and the symptom will leave. Rivera is a shitty HC. Plain and simple. JDR and Rivera jerk each other off. 2 old dinosaurs that have won a combined 0 Super Bowls as coaches. And they will retire with 0 too.
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Old 09-18-2022, 10:18 PM   #5
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If JDR is the coordinator next week, and he will be, it's just further proof that Rivera is a spineless bum. He just wants yes-men like Snyder does. Snyder controls Rivera then Rivera controls everyone else.
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Old 09-18-2022, 10:30 PM   #6
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On the play where Swift scored it was 3rd and 15. Goff threw the ball in the flat, Swift fell down. Where are the defenders?? He fell down, got up and McCain was whiffed. There was no one else to make a play. If you hold them to 3 there it is 25 -15 in the 3rd. That play just make no sense at all. How do you let that happen on a 3rd and 15? I don't think I have seen that, where the back falls down, gets up and runs for a TD. To let that happen you are literally the worst defense in the NFL.
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Old 09-18-2022, 10:34 PM   #7
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On the play where Swift scored it was 3rd and 15. Goff threw the ball in the flat, Swift fell down. Where are the defenders?? He fell down, got up and McCain was whiffed. There was no one else to make a play. If you hold them to 3 there it is 25 -15 in the 3rd. That play just make no sense at all. How do you let that happen on a 3rd and 15? I don't think I have seen that, where the back falls down, gets up and runs for a TD. To let that happen you are literally the worst defense in the NFL.
We will never win shit with Rivera. He was a nice little band-aid for Snyder to throw over the gaping wound, to try and cover his own ass.
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Things I would do this week:

Cut Jackson, Mayo, McCain, Trai Turner and Bostic

Sign Blake Martinez, Erick Flowers and a veteran DL, play Castro-Fields and Holmes.
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Old 09-18-2022, 11:09 PM   #9
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Things I would do this week:

Cut Jackson, Mayo, McCain, Trai Turner and Bostic

Sign Blake Martinez, Erick Flowers and a veteran DL, play Castro-Fields and Holmes.
The Giants cut Martinez and he is coming off an ACL. Probably not someone I'd be looking to sign. There is a reason he isn't on a team.

There is no way they're cutting Jackson. He makes too much.
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We will never win shit with Rivera. He was a nice little band-aid for Snyder to throw over the gaping wound, to try and cover his own ass.
We are stuck w/ Ron.
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We are stuck w/ Ron.
Until Snyder dies, this is what we will always be. And he's rich as fuck, he could live another 40 years. That piece of shit has a very good chance to out live most of us on this site.
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As I think we all suspected, Holcomb is not a MLB. We wanted to give the guy a chance to prove it but he is much better (relatively) playing outside.
I don't get the feeling that JDR is getting the personnel or freedom of scheme that he wants, but regardless it is the coaches job to get the guys he has working within their limits. I keep hearing his system is complex, obviously too complex for the players he has. He has more than enough experience to have realised that by now. Many of the best defences in the league have their share of low round draft picks and UDFA, but they have been coached to what their responsibilities are and well placed within their limited skill set to hold those responsibilities down so there are no gaping holes left to run through

I have been avoiding watching the games live, life is too short and nerves too fragile, in hope that I could check out the result afterwards and be pleasantly surprised or at least reassured I didn't just waste another 3 hours of my life on this team. Getting hard to be enthused by them.
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We will never win shit with Rivera. He was a nice little band-aid for Snyder to throw over the gaping wound, to try and cover his own ass.
Well said.
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On the play where Swift scored it was 3rd and 15. Goff threw the ball in the flat, Swift fell down. Where are the defenders?? He fell down, got up and McCain was whiffed. There was no one else to make a play. If you hold them to 3 there it is 25 -15 in the 3rd. That play just make no sense at all. How do you let that happen on a 3rd and 15? I don't think I have seen that, where the back falls down, gets up and runs for a TD. To let that happen you are literally the worst defense in the NFL.
Agreed, that play drove me nuts. Another utterly bad angle and missed tackle by McCain... the man sucks, I don't know what I'm missing with him...
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I've never been an impatient "sack the coach" after a few games kind of guy. But I'm saying sack JDR now. It's not too late to turn this D into something competent, but JDR isn't going to get that done. If Rivera wants to keep his job, he has to see that this season rests on how the D plays, and probably his job rests on the same. He's improved the O dramatically already. With more high picks spent on the D in the last few years, why can't he fix that?
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