All Arrington All The Time (Mega Merge Club Mix)

[skinsfanthru&thru]

I love the skins winning but I detect the distinct odor of bs surrounding the Arrington situation cuz there is absolutely no way holdman or clemons or even the 2 combined can match the playmaking ability of Arrington. The guys on the Comcast post game show they were mentioning that Holdman's name hadn't even been mentioned during the game and almost never seems to be around the ball and looking back at a lot of the footage they're right. This just seems like it's gonna get worse before it gets better but I hope I'm wrong.

[MTK]

The Washington Times is already coming up with trade scenarios, LOL.

I agree with whoever said it's a long season, LaVar is going to get his chance again.

Maybe the team is gearing up to move on from LaVar and get out from under his monster contract. Or maybe Williams and co. are simply satisfied with the current lineup and LaVar hasn't earned his job back yet.

Either way it's hilarious how the media is running with this. I think we all just need to stay patient, hell LaVar is and he's the one that's directly effected by all this.

[Daseal]

If his name isn't being called it also means he's not getting abused for big plays.

[jbcjr14]

Originally Posted by Daseal

If his name isn't being called it also means he's not getting abused for big plays.

Exactly....#56 must not be buying into the system...therefore he is not on the field. We really don't know the reasons, and it really doesn't matter at this point since they continue to win.

[heybigstar]

Wait,
if we cut Lavar after this year, doesnt that makes we take a huge cap hit?

our salary cap was starting to look pretty good.. finally gettting trotter off this year for the most part (he might still have a little left)

[heybigstar]

"if cut, a signing bonus of more than $11 million would accelerate and count against the 2006 salary cap"

Wow,

although i gues we take a 9 million cut for coles this year.
If we cut him after the season, then finally 2007,
our cap could be in really good shape?

[GoSkins!]

Next year Lavar is slated to make $10,542 so if his release fee is $13,200 then we end up taking a 3 million dollar hit (right?). After the June 1st date, we could spread that out.

I would hate to see Lavar go, but financially it is possible.

[Schneed10]

Arrington would be a big hit to the salary cap in 2006 whether he was on the team or off the team. According to Canuck's cap sheets, he's scheduled to count $12 million against the 2006 cap anyway. If releasing him hits us with a cap hit of $11 million in 2006, then that's actually a $1 million savings.

It's hard to know if these numbers are actually right. But one thing's for sure, if we release Arrington in 2006, he's not going to kill the cap like Coles did. He's going to kill our cap whether he's here or not. And if the coaches feel like they're better off with other guys in the lineup, then they might as well cut Arrington loose and clear the cap space for the future.

[Schneed10]

And there is nothing wrong with Warrick Holdman so far. We're ranked 5th in overall defensive yards per game. We've given up an average of 12 points per game. Most importantly, we're 3-0. And as Daseal mentioned, he has not been making mistakes. He's cheap and he plays within the system. He's the perfect fit into a no-name defense.

I like what's being built. It seems like the defense is largely going to be made up of 2 excellent and highly paid corners, a stud safety in Taylor (we should pay for him because his range provides a ton of flexibility), but otherwise it will basically be low-cost system guys. That's nice, it saves cap room for your offense.

[Schneed10]

I like Lavar for his big-play ability, but I don't like how he's not very disciplined. He tries to do too much and ends up giving up big plays. He'll make big plays, but he'll also give up big plays. Overall, he's not worth $68 million by a long shot.

[Schneed10]

One last thought (too many posts for me in a row, I'm talking to myself, LOL).

Next season Arrington is due a roster bonus of like $7 million. To me, this makes him very tradeable. To a new team, a $7 million roster bonus could easily be renegotiated into a $7 million signing bonus, an amount many teams would perceive to be a relative bargain for Lavar Arrington. The team would probably be very happy to pay $7 million up front for him and keep the rest of his contract largely intact.

Just have to wonder if Arrington would go for that. If he would demand more of a signing bonus, then it would make him very hard to trade. Teams would probably be wary of shelling out $12-15 million in a signing bonus to him. We could still try to trade him without a renegotiation, but I don't think teams would be willing to take on a $7 million roster bonus without converting it to a signing bonus. A roster bonus would hit the 2006 cap all at once. If it was renegotiated to a signing bonus, the cap hit would be spread out.

Should be interesting how it plays out.

[scowan]

The only thing that I wonder about surrounding Lavar is that Gibbs continues to be upset with the Skins turnover ratio and I wonder if Lavar might not be a guy who could cause a game changing hit that leads to a fumble or something and shorten the field for our offense. Our team is playing great defense, but we aren't getting sacks, INTS or Fumbles. I think the skins have only one INT in 3 games. That is really terrible if you think about it. Hopefully the skins will stop the Broncos running game this week an make Plummer throw more, because the more he throws the better off we will be.

[irish]

I agree that LA could be that big hit guy that would create a game changing turnover however it seems that the coaching staff is not willing to standby and let LA screw up plays on the chance for 1 big hit.

[dblanch66]

He won't be cut. Whether he wants it or not. No way the F. O. will make the same mistake twice. He'll have to just stay put and deal.

[sportscurmudgeon]

I am absolutely positive that this is not an issue between Gibbs and Williams. And I'm equally positive that Gregg Williams could care less if LaVar Arrington ever starts another game for the Redskins. Absent injuries forcing the situation, I believe that Arrington will be a spot player for the Skins as long as Williams is the defensive coordinator. And Williams will be the defensive coordinator as long as the defense is sound and he isn't moved up to a head coaching job somewhere. The only way he puts Arrington in the starting line-up and leaves him there is for Gibbs to order him to do that and I don't think that's gonna happen.

As I tried to portray in my "Imaginary Exercise" above, Joe Gibbs has no real motivation to overrule his defensive coordinator unless the defense comes apart at the seams. It hasn't and it will take more than one injury or two to make that happen.

People here have wondered why LaVar isn't getting the snaps that they believe he has earned. Here's the problem with that line of thinking:

Joe Gibbs and Gregg Williams are the coaches now. What has LaVar earned during the tenure of this coaching staff? The answer is - - virtually nothing.

If you want to credit him with earning snaps because of what he did while Norv and Marty and OBC were here, then the starting line-up would alo include Champ Bailey, Fred Smoot and Patrick Ramsey. It doesn't because those "credits" don't carry over because those coaches aren't here to hand out playing time so all those past deeds - on losing teams in case you forgot.

Some players achieve so much for a franchise that they are indeed immune from being benched at some point in their career. John Elway comes to mind; Brett Favre certainly fits that description; Dick Butkus was irreplaceable; Terry Bradshaw couldn't be benched after 4 Super Bowls. LaVar Arrington is a physically gifted football player, but he ain't anywhere near that status yet and is not likely ever to get there.

So, now Arrington has to convince Gregg Williams that he (LaVar Arrington) can be more productive as a LB in Williams' defensive system than Warrick Holdman and Chris Clemons and - for all I know - Zak Keasey too. I'm not saying Keasey is the better LB, but maybe Gregg Williams thinks he is? I don't read minds so I don't know...