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Old 12-13-2005, 10:20 AM   #1
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Re: Cowboys-Redskins: Bad Matchups

sup Rings. had to duck out for a while because i was on a big project at mtv, you might hear about it soon. haven't missed one play of one skins game tho, and what a time to get back. skins-girls in december for the playoffs...any close losses this seasons will be utterly forgotten when we can say we sweeped the cowboys.
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:05 PM   #2
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Re: Cowboys-Redskins: Bad Matchups

What has Taylor Jacobs ever shown any of us to make us think this is the game he will "step up"? The guy is a bust. Put in Antonio Brown running a fly pattern everytime and wear out their DBs.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:03 PM   #3
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What has Taylor Jacobs ever shown any of us to make us think this is the game he will "step up"? The guy is a bust. Put in Antonio Brown running a fly pattern everytime and wear out their DBs.
Ironically, the Skins could have drafted Anquan Boldin when the OBC and The Danny opted for Jacobs. Wouldn't Boldin look great in burgundy and gold about now. If Jacobs continues to come up small in this crucial stretch, you really have to question his chances of returning next year. Now is his time to stand up and be counted.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:15 PM   #4
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Ironically, the Skins could have drafted Anquan Boldin when the OBC and The Danny opted for Jacobs. Wouldn't Boldin look great in burgundy and gold about now. If Jacobs continues to come up small in this crucial stretch, you really have to question his chances of returning next year. Now is his time to stand up and be counted.
Boldin would look better, but true he was Surrier guy and not a need at the time, but what they called the best available player at the time.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:10 PM   #5
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What has Taylor Jacobs ever shown any of us to make us think this is the game he will "step up"? The guy is a bust. Put in Antonio Brown running a fly pattern everytime and wear out their DBs.
Whatever did Patrick Crayton show last year to ever make us think he was going to break out? That is why they play the games and we are watching, because somebody who knows more than us thinks they can make a play. Try to rain on my parade all you want, but somebody is going to step up in my poor pathetic Redskins fan mind and help us win this game and nobody will convince me different until they actually do lose the game. It just takes one play, one stumble, one step for someone to be the hero and someone be the terd. If you can't get up for this game or even think something positive of your team something is seriously wrong as a fan of the Skins. No team in the NFC is playing that great with the exception of Seattle and guess what we beat them, who cares if it was a missed field goal, we lost many on last plays or drives all year.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:20 PM   #6
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Whatever did Patrick Crayton show last year to ever make us think he was going to break out? That is why they play the games and we are watching, because somebody who knows more than us thinks they can make a play. Try to rain on my parade all you want, but somebody is going to step up in my poor pathetic Redskins fan mind and help us win this game and nobody will convince me different until they actually do lose the game. It just takes one play, one stumble, one step for someone to be the hero and someone be the terd. If you can't get up for this game or even think something positive of your team something is seriously wrong as a fan of the Skins. No team in the NFC is playing that great with the exception of Seattle and guess what we beat them, who cares if it was a missed field goal, we lost many on last plays or drives all year.
Listen, if you can't admit that Taylor Jacobs is a complete and total bust then fine, but don't tell me something is wrong with me as a fan because I call a turd a turd. Honesty is better than blind optimism any day of the week.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:36 PM   #7
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TAYLOR JACOBS IS GONNA BE A STUD FOR THE SKINS!!! TAKE IT TO THE BANK! The question is when (The answer...hopefully this weekend)
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:42 PM   #8
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TAYLOR JACOBS IS GONNA BE A STUD FOR THE SKINS!!! TAKE IT TO THE BANK! The question is when (The answer...hopefully this weekend)
I took it to the bank and it bounced.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:43 PM   #9
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Personally I'm not ready to write TJ off as a complete bust.

Other than Moss and Cooley, nobody in this offense has received many looks.

Patten didn't see many balls go his way, and we assumed it was all on him.

Now TJ isn't getting many looks, and again we assume it must be him.

Perhaps Brunell is just so locked in on Cooley and Moss that the #2 WR isn't getting a fair shake. I think it's fair to say that could be the case. If Moss and Cooley are the first two options, then technically TJ or Patten are then the #3 WR and most #3 WR's in this league don't rack up huge numbers.
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:16 PM   #10
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Personally I'm not ready to write TJ off as a complete bust.

Other than Moss and Cooley, nobody in this offense has received many looks.

Patten didn't see many balls go his way, and we assumed it was all on him.

Now TJ isn't getting many looks, and again we assume it must be him.

Perhaps Brunell is just so locked in on Cooley and Moss that the #2 WR isn't getting a fair shake. I think it's fair to say that could be the case. If Moss and Cooley are the first two options, then technically TJ or Patten are then the #3 WR and most #3 WR's in this league don't rack up huge numbers.
Patten has proven himself to be a capable wideout in the NFL. While some here may have written him off as a has-been, or that he suddenly forgot how to play, I think it's been more of a chemistry thing with Brunell. If, as you say Brunell is locked in to only two receivers to the point that he's neglecting other parts of the field, then that's the fault of Brunell.

Jacobs on the other hand has had time to break into the starting lineup and each year fails to do it. He has been virtually silent in his first legitimate shot at a starting role. Now, to be fair, Jacobs has been pushed into the #2 spot at a time when the offense as a whole seems to be in a rut. But by the same token, if Jacobs was truly going to be an effective player in this league, his play would be enhancing this offense, instead of being one of the reasons that it's struggling.

Still, I'll agree that Jacobs deserves at least the chance to make a contribution throughout the remainder of the season. If by then he hasn't "stepped up" and established himself as a member of the starting unit, his time here may have officially run out.
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:28 PM   #11
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Patten has proven himself to be a capable wideout in the NFL. While some here may have written him off as a has-been, or that he suddenly forgot how to play, I think it's been more of a chemistry thing with Brunell. If, as you say Brunell is locked in to only two receivers to the point that he's neglecting other parts of the field, then that's the fault of Brunell.

Jacobs on the other hand has had time to break into the starting lineup and each year fails to do it. He has been virtually silent in his first legitimate shot at a starting role. Now, to be fair, Jacobs has been pushed into the #2 spot at a time when the offense as a whole seems to be in a rut. But by the same token, if Jacobs was truly going to be an effective player in this league, his play would be enhancing this offense, instead of being one of the reasons that it's struggling.

Still, I'll agree that Jacobs deserves at least the chance to make a contribution throughout the remainder of the season. If by then he hasn't "stepped up" and established himself as a member of the starting unit, his time here may have officially run out.


Well I was looking over the play-by-plays according to NFL.com from this year and it appears that for at least the first month and a half Patten did get a lot of looks just not a lot of receptions. Now part of that could have been Patten's fault, Brunell's, or plays such as the PI against Denver (I think). The numbers start to go down around the time that Patten got hurt.

After getting a ridiculous amount of looks his first game starting, Jacobs numbers have gone down. But again, a lot of that is probably attributable to an increased focus on the running game.

One thing to note is that unlike Jacobs, Patten never had a holding or illegal motion penalty or anything of that sort. But I agree with Beem-give him until the end of this season.


David Patten:

Week 1: 5 passes thrown, 3 catches
Week 2: 6 passes thrown, 1 catch
Bye Week
Week 4: 8 passes thrown, 3 catches
Week 5: 14 passes thrown, 7 catches
Week 6: 12 passes thrown, 4 catches
Week 7: 4 passes thrown, 2 catches
Week 8: 5 passes thrown, 1 catch
Week 9: 3 passes thrown, 0 catches
Week 10: 9 passes thrown, 3 catches

Taylor Jacobs:

Week 11: 12 passes thrown, 3 catches
Week 12: 5 passes thrown, 4 catches
Week 13: 4 passes thrown, 1 catch
Week 14: 2 passes thrown, 1 catch
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:17 PM   #12
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Well, if Fraygeelay steps up and has a big game then I will start a Thread on Mon. morning saying I was completely wrong and he is a viable WR in this league. I doubt that's gonna happen, but ya never know. I think he's been given every opportunity to make it in this league, but for those darn hangnail injuries, he'd be in the Pro Bowl.
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:42 PM   #13
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:56 PM   #14
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Watch out for Antonio Brown and/or Sean Taylor thrown in the offensive mix.
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:23 PM   #15
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Watch out for Antonio Brown and/or Sean Taylor thrown in the offensive mix.
Yes, Gibbs has been workin on Taylor 4 offense and didint run it vs Cards.....Never know Baby!!!! He can jump with the best of em.
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