Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Is anyone else feeling the sticker shock of the Griffin deal wearing off and pure joy arising from having a stud QB?

No, but I bet you are. As soon as I heard about the trade, I set about convincing myself of the "glass half full" mentality, which was fairly easy. I'd rather they pull a big gamble like this than settle for a combo of a retread like Orton and a second rate rookie like Cousins.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mooby

No, but I bet you are. As soon as I heard about the trade, I set about convincing myself of the "glass half full" mentality, which was fairly easy. I'd rather they pull a big gamble like this than settle for a combo of a retread like Orton and a second rate rookie like Cousins.

No doubt about that. I was stoked from the beginning for the player that we got and the ones we didn't get.

But the Griffin gamble to me is not "big" - it's "enormous," even "historic." It makes the Eli Manning trade look small.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Will some of you feel better if we package our 3rd and 4th to move back up into the 2nd? We'd still have 4th, 5th, 6th and at least one 7th.

If things somehow shook out that we could move up to get Mike Adams in the 2nd, I'd go for that.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Never had the sticker shock in the first place.

[skinsfaninok]

If they took RT at 4 it's just stupid.. Minnesota took ponder too high and hell they benched him for joe webb at one point last yr

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by irish

RGIII was great in college but he hasnt taken a pro snap yet so he cant be called a stud yet.

He's a stud athlete and we don't have many guys that scare defenses.. now we do, guys like Cam and Vick are nightmares for defenses. RG fits that category

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Thank you EarthQuake for keeping up the wallpaper, my wish came true. you can take it down now though bc we will have a real one shortly. Now we just have to get our man some protection and some weapons and it should be fun to watch!

[warriorzpath]

It's funny how there's several articles and posts that say the trade for the 2nd pick is risky. Gambles are considered risky by how much that can be potentially lost. What exactly can the redskins say they have right now that they would be losing?

They've been near the bottom of the division nearly every year. In order to turn things around they needed to take that chance and overpay. I consider it bold rather than risky.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

It's funny how there's several articles and posts that say the trade for the 2nd pick is risky. Gambles are considered risky by how much that can be potentially lost. What exactly can the redskins say they have right now that they would be losing?

Wins between 2012-2016?

The gamble is of course that you win more games as a function of having Robert Griffin play quarterback than you would with someone else (Ryan Tannehill) playing quarterback and with three declining free agents instead of three ascending draft picks (assuming 53 man rosters throughout).

You lose the gamble if Tannehill + 3 ascending players would have outperformed Griffin and three free agents who we wouldn't have needed if we had draft picks. You win the gamble if Griffin and whoever we sign to help Griffin wins more games than Tannehill and those picks would have.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Wins between 2012-2016?

The gamble is of course that you win more games as a function of having Robert Griffin play quarterback than you would with someone else (Ryan Tannehill) playing quarterback and with three declining free agents instead of three ascending draft picks (assuming 53 man rosters throughout).

You lose the gamble if Tannehill + 3 ascending players would have outperformed Griffin and three free agents who we wouldn't have needed if we had draft picks. You win the gamble if Griffin and whoever we sign to help Griffin wins more games than Tannehill and those picks would have.

That's ultra-subjective though. Even though it's easier to say that Griffin/Tannehill more directly helped/hurt the Redskins/_____ team. It's so much more difficult to say anyone other than a QB directly made _____ team better.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

That's ultra-subjective though. Even though it's easier to say that Griffin/Tannehill more directly helped/hurt the Redskins/_____ team. It's so much more difficult to say anyone other than a QB directly made _____ team better.

It is really subjective, at least the way I phrased it. I think you could probably put it more objectively, given more thought.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

It's funny how there's several articles and posts that say the trade for the 2nd pick is risky. Gambles are considered risky by how much is can be potentially lost. What exactly can the redskins say the have right now that they would losing?

They've been near the bottom of the division nearly every year. In order to turn things around they needed to overpay. I consider it bold rather than risky.

I agree we have sucked for along time and haven't ever really had a QB that we would even think could be a franchise QB. Every player u pick is just a prospect. We took a chance for out QB, now let's see what happens.


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[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

Thank you EarthQuake for keeping up the wallpaper, my wish came true. you can take it down now though bc we will have a real one shortly. Now we just have to get our man some protection and some weapons and it should be fun to watch!

I told you that I wouldn't let you down. Once I know his true number, I'll take it down.

[Hail to the Redskins]

Here's a thought...

Anyone have a thought that the Skins have contacted the Colts about their plans at #1?

Basically, if we KNOW they are taking Luck, then we can start getting all of the parameters in place for a contract before the draft, so RGIII can dive right into the playbook (just like Luck).

I mean, would the Colts share that info (if they are drafting Luck or RGIII) if Allen asks? What would keep them from talking and sharing that info?

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

Here's a thought...

Anyone have a thought that the Skins have contacted the Colts about their plans at #1?

Basically, if we KNOW they are taking Luck, then we can start getting all of the parameters in place for a contract before the draft, so RGIII can dive right into the playbook (just like Luck).

I mean, would the Colts share that info (if they are drafting Luck or RGIII) if Allen asks? What would keep them from talking and sharing that info?

i don't see it being an issue, i believe he'll dive right in no matter