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Old 12-02-2007, 05:53 PM   #616
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Re: Let's win for Sean: Bills vs. Redskins game thread

I mean the sad part is, I wasn't surprised at all when I heard it. Here at work I caught the moment of silence at other games and every stadium was completely silent
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Old 12-02-2007, 05:54 PM   #617
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Im not here to question anyones loyalty to the Skins but stop your self pitty. So they lost who cares, really? All those players can still go home to their families and as for us fans we can go on with out lives. If you think about it losing the way we did may be the ultimate tribute to ST. During the game i caught myself thinking if only ST was in there he would have nailed that guy or ST would have picked that pass off. Dont you think the fact that we lost shows how important he was to us on the field? We as fans saw the Skins lose a game but they really lost more than that, they lost a teammate and friend. I couldnt imagine how emotionally drained the team as a whole is and then have to come out and play off of emotion, thats alot to ask dont you think? I know ill get a lot of crap from people on this site but thats OK....
Well said. If one of my buds lost his life say at work I wouldn't exactly be up to working my butt off. Skins win or lose, we really don't benefit or lose anything important in our lives, it is just that our favorite team wins or loses a game. Still, it would have been nice for them to win it for ST, but then again one win isn't going to ever negate anything for the team in losing a friend.
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Old 12-02-2007, 05:54 PM   #618
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I know, I'm sorry. Just that fucking lack of respect during the moment of silence just reiterated to me why I think as a whole Redskins fans are the lamest in just about all of sports. Love the team, hate the fans. And then for people to say the team let the fans down today? Are you kidding me? How fucking selfish are you?

It's a very general statement to make I know, and I'm trying not to single people out (not singling you out particularly) but I'm sick of it.

Some idiots will call it drinking the kool-aid. Well fuck them. It's not about that at all, it's about how fans are always expecting the worst from this team. Yeah, yeah "prove me wrong" I know. We're not playing well, true. And these last two games are games we should have absolutely won. But I'm sorry I just have a hard time rallying around my fellow fans when they decide they're going to throw in the towel.

It's why I don't watch games anymore up here with people who say "Well I have no hope for this team...but I'll be right there cheering for them when they win" Yeah well you know what, good riddance to you.

(I apologize in advance for the language, but I'm just tired of this)

Probably my favorite post that you've made.
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Old 12-02-2007, 06:35 PM   #619
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Re: Let's win for Sean: Bills vs. Redskins game thread

Guys, its been a tough week for the entire Redskin family. We all need to calm down. I realize that people wanted us to win, but that didn't happen. I thought that this week would have at least taught us that football is just a game. There are more thn 53 men out there today who were still nursing an extremely deep wound. It would have been great to win one for Sean, but that didn't happen, and thats trivial now.

I also realize that many of you may have been depending on this game as a possible means of upliftment after a hard week, and you have taken it to heart that we have lost. Don't! Watch the memorial service tomorrow, and come to closure with the issue, but don't expect these players, who were much, much closer to the man than you were, to close the issue for you. These guys came out and played hard; as hard as one could possibly do after dealing with intense heartbreak. Don't blame them, or the coaching staff for this loss.

Guys, girls, you can't be a true fan and give up on your team, ever. This is a site for true, knowledgeable fans, not ranting bandwagonists, so if you fall into that category, please leave the site. No disrespect to you, but when people like that post, it negatively affects the board and the posters, and unecessarily so.

Sorry if this was incoherent, had a lot to say
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:29 PM   #620
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Guys, its been a tough week for the entire Redskin family. We all need to calm down. I realize that people wanted us to win, but that didn't happen. I thought that this week would have at least taught us that football is just a game. There are more thn 53 men out there today who were still nursing an extremely deep wound. It would have been great to win one for Sean, but that didn't happen, and thats trivial now.

I also realize that many of you may have been depending on this game as a possible means of upliftment after a hard week, and you have taken it to heart that we have lost. Don't! Watch the memorial service tomorrow, and come to closure with the issue, but don't expect these players, who were much, much closer to the man than you were, to close the issue for you. These guys came out and played hard; as hard as one could possibly do after dealing with intense heartbreak. Don't blame them, or the coaching staff for this loss.

Guys, girls, you can't be a true fan and give up on your team, ever. This is a site for true, knowledgeable fans, not ranting bandwagonists, so if you fall into that category, please leave the site. No disrespect to you, but when people like that post, it negatively affects the board and the posters, and unecessarily so.

Sorry if this was incoherent, had a lot to say
Not incoherent at all...very good post.

I am not going to criticize any member of the organization because of this loss. They played their hearts out but came up short against a defense who shut our run game down and made some big plays. During the moment of silence, you could see many of the members of the team in tears, a few seconds later they had to think about playcalling and techniques, not an easy thing to do. A few idiots made noise during the moment of silence, but if you looked at the crowd throughout the whole game, the FAR majority of them were there to honor Sean and they did with respect.

Smootsmack, be careful speaking about a few of our fans with anger and emotion and condemning all of us. The Redskins fanbase has proven to be loyal and the best in football over and over throughout the years, so to speak the way you did, although your emotions warrant it, has no basis in fact.

I have a great respect for you and what you bring to the site, but if you're that angry, you may need to just let the site go for a day or two and let your anger subside. For the most part, we have a great community here and we wouldn't want anyone to be driven away in a time where we should be here to support each other and the team.

Football is not important right now. They performed well considering the circumstances and the outcome showed what we've seen in the past few weeks while Sean was injured...he was a difference maker and probably the key to our defense. He'll be missed greatly, on the field and in the locker room, as well as by his family.

I don't care if the team wins or loses right now, I just want them to be OK after such a tragic loss.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:44 PM   #621
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Not incoherent at all...very good post.

I am not going to criticize any member of the organization because of this loss. They played their hearts out but came up short against a defense who shut our run game down and made some big plays. During the moment of silence, you could see many of the members of the team in tears, a few seconds later they had to think about playcalling and techniques, not an easy thing to do. A few idiots made noise during the moment of silence, but if you looked at the crowd throughout the whole game, the FAR majority of them were there to honor Sean and they did with respect.

Smootsmack, be careful speaking about a few of our fans with anger and emotion and condemning all of us. The Redskins fanbase has proven to be loyal and the best in football over and over throughout the years, so to speak the way you did, although your emotions warrant it, has no basis in fact.

I have a great respect for you and what you bring to the site, but if you're that angry, you may need to just let the site go for a day or two and let your anger subside. For the most part, we have a great community here and we wouldn't want anyone to be driven away in a time where we should be here to support each other and the team.

Football is not important right now. They performed well considering the circumstances and the outcome showed what we've seen in the past few weeks while Sean was injured...he was a difference maker and probably the key to our defense. He'll be missed greatly, on the field and in the locker room, as well as by his family.

I don't care if the team wins or loses right now, I just want them to be OK after such a tragic loss.
Well I tried to make it clear that I wasn't speaking about all fans, just many of them. It is my personal opinion that, if asked to make a general statement about the fans, I would say that overall they are pretty lame. Of course, that doesn't mean each and every one is. I know I'm not . I mean this is a great site with many great members (yourself included), but it does change the fact that there have been and still are plenty who are, well, lame.

Again this is just my opinion from 25 years of being a fan of the team. You may think otherwise.

And quite honestly, sometimes I like the freedom to just take off my moderator hat and get to act human. A lot of people come on here and get all emotional after a loss. I should be granted that right on occassion as well.

I completely agree that what's most important is the mental and emotional well being of the team. Not the fans, the team.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:13 PM   #622
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Well I tried to make it clear that I wasn't speaking about all fans, just many of them. It is my personal opinion that, if asked to make a general statement about the fans, I would say that overall they are pretty lame. Of course, that doesn't mean each and every one is. I know I'm not . I mean this is a great site with many great members (yourself included), but it does change the fact that there have been and still are plenty who are, well, lame.

Again this is just my opinion from 25 years of being a fan of the team. You may think otherwise.

And quite honestly, sometimes I like the freedom to just take off my moderator hat and get to act human. A lot of people come on here and get all emotional after a loss. I should be granted that right on occassion as well.

I completely agree that what's most important is the mental and emotional well being of the team. Not the fans, the team.
I agree with you about many things, including avoiding the game threads until the next day after the game is over. Hearing the remarks like "bench Portis" and "fire Gibbs" when we don't convert a 3rd down or even lose a game is sickening.

Yes, there are plenty of disrespectful Skins fans, the same who won't remove their hats for the National Anthem or use turn signals. Every team has them though and from what I see, we have base of MORE loyal, MORE respectful and overall MORE just civilized fans. Our bad ones aren't anywhere near as bad as Philly's, Dallas', New England's, Oakland's...

I hope you didn't take my post as a personal attack or any type of anger or hatred for you. It wasn't meant that way. I am also emotionally drained from the week as a fan and frustrated with our loss (of Sean, not the game which I think the guys performed admirably considering the circumstances).

I've been a Skins fan for over 20 years as well. I'm seen a few bad apples, but for the most part, we have a great fan base in my opinion. Our organization is respectable too, moreso when Gibbs is a part of it. Even if they don't win, we always show sportsmanship and class. You never see our players being suspended or arrested and we do a ton of charity work, probably more than other teams.
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