Trouble in Redskins Park?

[FlyerSkin]

Geez move on already! The deed has been done. The only lesson to be learned is that nothing has really changed at Redskins Park.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

Geez move on already! The deed has been done. The only lesson to be learned is that nothing has really changed at Redskins Park.

Change, improvement, and personal growth are overrated anyways. It's all about consistency, even if it's shitty consistency. That's the front office motto.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Change, improvement, and personal growth are overrated anyways. It's all about consistency, even if it's shitty consistency. That's the front office motto.

Chaos reigns supreme at Redskins Park, it is Snyder's philosophy. The chaos stems from the fact that if people try to build a winner the right way and step on th ownership's toes they are gone. So you are right, there is a consistency there. It is getting old.

[CRedskinsRule]

It does seem like BA is becoming Vinny lite

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[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

It does seem like BA is becoming Vinny lite

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Can you explain this post? BA is nothing like Vinny.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

Can you explain this post? BA is nothing like Vinny.

I can try. It may be more a gut feeling than a one to one comparison. The issues with Vinny that I remember were:

Yes man to DS,
Abrasive personality,
poor talent evaluator,
egotistical and underhanded with both players and coaches.
favored yes men and "superstar" talent

Bruce seems to be a bit of a yes man/DS stooge.
His personality isn't abrasive, but it also seems to be passive aggresive,
at least with QB's (ask Chico) he is 0 for how many,
imo, he comes off as egotistical and underhanded (remember the winning the offseason quote)
I think a team building the best players would have signed KC using the FT as the leverage. I think a team building the best players would have released Hall at this point. I think a team building the best players would have released RG3 instead letting ego win the day.

He's not as abrasive. I think he is a little more deceitful. And he's may be managing to eff up a team that was looking up. (maybe he's not, and I will accept that if they get past their use of leaks and innuendo to disparage those that who disagree with them)

Hence Vinny Light.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I can try. It may be more a gut feeling than a one to one comparison. The issues with Vinny that I remember were:

Yes man to DS,
Abrasive personality,
poor talent evaluator,
egotistical and underhanded with both players and coaches.
favored yes men and "superstar" talent

Bruce seems to be a bit of a yes man/DS stooge.
His personality isn't abrasive, but it also seems to be passive aggresive,
at least with QB's (ask Chico) he is 0 for how many,
imo, he comes off as egotistical and underhanded (remember the winning the offseason quote)
I think a team building the best players would have signed KC using the FT as the leverage. I think a team building the best players would have released Hall at this point. I think a team building the best players would have released RG3 instead letting ego win the day.

He's not as abrasive. I think he is a little more deceitful. And he's may be managing to eff up a team that was looking up. (maybe he's not, and I will accept that if they get past their use of leaks and innuendo to disparage those that who disagree with them)

Hence Vinny Light.

Hold judgement until after the draft and really after the 2017 season ends til you say Bruce is effing up the team. Scot's last draft sort of sucked. I agree the FA season thus far is a mixed bag, but he hasn't wrecked anything... yet.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by FlyerSkin

Hold judgement until after the draft and really after the 2017 season ends til you say Bruce is effing up the team. Scot's last draft sort of sucked. I agree the FA season thus far is a mixed bag, but he hasn't wrecked anything... yet.

Yeah, he's only had 7 years with the team, not to mention the countless years with the Raiders and Bucs. But it's real easy to say he hasn't had his fair chance if you blame everything on Shanahan and McCloughan.

[skinsfan69]

I'd say that Allen does need to come out and say something to the fans and season ticket holders. The season ticket holders are in essence Snyder's customers and they deserve to know what direction the team is going in. This constant silence is just some Mickey Mouse bullshit. Actually Allen was on Redskin Nation, and the Tennessee radio station. He's too much of a pussy to take questions from Washington media.

[Evilgrin]

Allen has overseen a ton of terrible drafts already. They goofed things up with the Qb, who would be signed under market value right now. It does take two though, Snyder is always the larger problem.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Allen has overseen a ton of terrible drafts already. They goofed things up with the Qb, who would be signed under market value right now. It does take two though, Snyder is always the larger problem.

This is unfair. We do not know if KC would have signed an extension. This is all speculation.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Allen has overseen a ton of terrible drafts already. They goofed things up with the Qb, who would be signed under market value right now. It does take two though, Snyder is always the larger problem.

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

This is unfair. We do not know if KC would have signed an extension. This is all speculation.

Pretty accurate speculation, are you trying to tell me if they never franchised Kirk and signed him before the 2016 season to a long term deal he would not have been under contract for less than $24 mil a year which is probably his current market rate?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Pretty accurate speculation, are you trying to tell me if they never franchised Kirk and signed him before the 2016 season to a long term deal he would not have been under contract for less than $24 mil a year which is probably his current market rate?

You make it sound as if Cousins has to sign a contract offered to him. What makes you think he wouldn't have bet on himself? I think he's right, there's no way to know whether Cousins would have taken it.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You make it sound as if Cousins has to sign a contract offered to him. What makes you think he wouldn't have bet on himself? I think he's right, there's no way to know whether Cousins would have taken it.

I am sure we agree that the market and the last franchise tag sets Kirk's yearly value around $24 mil. Are you trying to tell me if someone put a 5 year $100 mil contract with $40 mil guaranteed in front of Kirk before the 2016 season and 9,000 passing yards ago he would not have signed it? Or maybe for a little higher? That would have been quite more than the rumor mill said the Redskins offered that Kirk turned down. I don't think you can argue that the Redskins gambled and lost tagging Kirk two years in a row. They would be lucky to get him for $24 mil a year now on a long term deal.

[Schneed10]

With the change in defensive staff I think we are highly likely to be improved on defense. Having real safeties will help too, and I still think Galette makes a difference.