Redskins vs. Giants Gameday thread, Opener 2009

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Buster

Cutler:
17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating

Sanchez:
18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating

Campbell:
19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating

What did you say? JC was the best of them all yesterday. Cutler looked horrid. Sanchez looked like the rookie he is.

From Boswell's column:

While the game was still in the hat, Campbell never got untracked. By the time the Giants hit a short field goal for a 23-10 lead with 3:12 to play, Campbell had passed for only 145 yards with one interception and two fumbles, one lost. However, his final drive, completing 5 for 6 for 66 yards, including a 17-yard score to Chris Cooley, raised, or padded, his quarterback rating to 93.6.

You can take comfort in the final stats and the 93.6 QB rating, but when the game still mattered, Campbell was mediocre and AGAIN, just not good enough to help his team win. Modest stats (like Favre's against the Browns) are fine in a win, but not in a loss. He did all he could do, but it just wasn't enough. Different year, same old story line.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

From Boswell's column:

While the game was still in the hat, Campbell never got untracked. By the time the Giants hit a short field goal for a 23-10 lead with 3:12 to play, Campbell had passed for only 145 yards with one interception and two fumbles, one lost. However, his final drive, completing 5 for 6 for 66 yards, including a 17-yard score to Chris Cooley, raised, or padded, his quarterback rating to 93.6.

You can take comfort in the final stats and the 93.6 QB rating, but when the game still mattered, Campbell was mediocre and AGAIN, just not good enough to help his team win. Modest stats (like Favre's against the Browns) are fine in a win, but not in a loss. He did all he could do, but it just wasn't enough. Different year, same old story line.

Well he was still better than Cutler, and well I wish we had been playing the Texans at home in our first game instead of the Giants at their home.

So you made half of a point here...what good does that make for the team?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

From Boswell's column:

While the game was still in the hat, Campbell never got untracked. By the time the Giants hit a short field goal for a 23-10 lead with 3:12 to play, Campbell had passed for only 145 yards with one interception and two fumbles, one lost. However, his final drive, completing 5 for 6 for 66 yards, including a 17-yard score to Chris Cooley, raised, or padded, his quarterback rating to 93.6.

You can take comfort in the final stats and the 93.6 QB rating, but when the game still mattered, Campbell was mediocre and AGAIN, just not good enough to help his team win. Modest stats (like Favre's against the Browns) are fine in a win, but not in a loss. He did all he could do, but it just wasn't enough. Different year, same old story line.

So using this selective acceptance of stats...we can throw out Brady's last 2 drives last night and deduct him from his total, because they were in the final 2 minutes and the one drive was started by a stupid fumble on a kickoff return that never should have happened.

So Campbell makes plays at the end of the game and almost pulls out a win for us...and we're not supposed to count these stats? I don't get it. Flawed logic at its best.

The media loves to bash Campbell like this too...from his Yahoo fantasy news this morning:

Sep 14 QB Jason Campbell's numbers against the Giants -- 19-of-26, 211 yards, touchdown, interception, 93.6 rating -- were fine, but they were deceiving. Fifty-six of the yards, the touchdown and five of the completions came after the Redskins trailed 23-10 with 3:00 left. Campbell made two big mistakes earlier, failing to get rid of or secure the ball on the play on Osi Umenyiora's sack/fumble/touchdown and on the interception he threw to Corey Webster after having already crossed the line of scrimmage.

Jason Campbell - Washington Redskins - News - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

[itvnetop]

I think the O-line gave Campbell good time to make reads today... there is a marked improvement along the trenches this season, imo.

[irish]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

I think the O-line gave Campbell good time to make reads today... there is a marked improvement along the trenches this season, imo.

WOW, You must have been watching a different game than I was.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by irish

WOW, You must have been watching a different game than I was.

Most of the time the G-Men had pressure, I felt it was during a blitz- too many men for the line to handle.

The line seemed to hold up when they were matched up man-to-man. Campbell didn't look too dinged up to me- clean jersey and all.

[irish]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Most of the time the G-Men had pressure, I felt it was during a blitz- too many men for the line to handle.

The line seemed to hold up when they were matched up man-to-man. Campbell didn't look too dinged up to me- clean jersey and all.

Its hard to get a dirty jersey on artificial turf.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by irish

Its hard to get a dirty jersey on artificial turf.

So you're saying Campbell was getting pulverized then? And yes, you can still get dirty on astroturf.

You're looking for holes in the wrong places.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by irish

WOW, You must have been watching a different game than I was.

The problem is JC does not know how to use the pocket so then the line look bad. When the line pushes the D line around him he rolls out when they push the D line in he runs up. Last nighht they showed some highlights from last years G game and the couple sacks they showed was all on JC. Lets face the fact he is not and NFL starter. Eli made him look like he was still in high school.

[skinsfan_nn]

Zorn is up to speak.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Zorn is up to speak.

Who cares he is a freaking idiot, all he does is make sugar-coated excuses!

[insideman]

Originally Posted by roth74va

Who cares he is a freaking idiot, all he does is make sugar-coated excuses!

Thats all he knows how to do. Piss poor coach and a leader.

[irish]

Originally Posted by roth74va

Who cares he is a freaking idiot, all he does is make sugar-coated excuses!

What's he gonna say? I'm stuck with a bunch of losers. I dont think so and if he did say the truth the fans and media would go nuts about throwing players under the bus.

What amazes me is how the Skins sum isnt greater than its parts.

[insideman]

Originally Posted by irish

What's he gonna say? I'm stuck with a bunch of losers. I dont think so and if he did say the truth the fans and media would go nuts about throwing players under the bus.

What amazes me is how the Skins sum isnt greater than its parts.

I think thAT could also go the other way. Are the players going to tell everyone they are stuck with a dumb ass loser coach?

[irish]

Originally Posted by insideman

I think thAT could also go the other way. Are the players going to tell everyone they are stuck with a dumb ass loser coach?

Thats what Portis did last season and got away with it because he (and all the players) knows they answer to Snyder not the head coach. Until that changes this team will be the same old losers we are used to seeing.