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Old 01-27-2012, 05:27 PM   #1
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Old 01-27-2012, 07:34 PM   #2
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Very interesting interview:
Washington Redskins: Kyle Shanahan Very Vocal about Offensive Needs | Washington Redskins

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“Everybody wants a franchise Quarterback… unfortunately there’s only about 10 of them on the planet. So people make a lot of mistakes trying to trade their draft away or pay a lot of money to people who really aren’t that. You have to really evaluate, you have to make sure you get the best guy possible. Everybody wants one of those 10 guys, but you don’t just go get one of those guys when they’re not available.”
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Kyle went on to say, “When we do go pay a guy or go draft a guy, you can’t get so enamored with, hey we need a quarterback lets go get it. We need a lot of positions. Gotta add some ballers.” Again, sounds like he’s down playing any thoughts about trading up for a QB.
To me it doesn't sound like he's inclined to trade up and throw away draft picks to get RGIII. It also doesn't sound like he's too interested in Flynn either.

Since this thread was started about P.Manning....
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Here’s the part I found really interesting, when asked about Peyton Manning, “Just make sure he’s healthy. Everyone knows he’s one, if not the best Quarterback ever in football. Just hope his neck is alright, and he’ll be Peyton Manning. Hopefully, he’s healthy. If the doctor says he’s healthy, and he’s healthy, then that’s enough for me.”

If the doctor says he’s healthy, and he says he’s healthy, then that’s enough for me… Interesting thing about that is, Kyle was asked a general question about Peyton Manning. He gushed all over the idea of Peyton Manning being on the open market, and cleared medically.
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:14 PM   #3
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

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Very interesting interview:
Washington Redskins: Kyle Shanahan Very Vocal about Offensive Needs | Washington Redskins

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From the interview...


To me it doesn't sound like he's inclined to trade up and throw away draft picks to get RGIII. It also doesn't sound like he's too interested in Flynn either.

Since this thread was started about P.Manning....
this guy's ego is off the scale! If we keep our two backups as the only qbs on the roster I want his bags packed!
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:18 PM   #4
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this guy's ego is off the scale! If we keep our two backups as the only qbs on the roster I want his bags packed!
Oh I'm with you. I'd be happy with Weeden being our starter, but I'd hope the team would look for another QB maybe mid draft or late draft. Plus another as a UFDA just for camp fodder or to take over the PS spot from Crompton.
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Oh I'm with you. I'd be happy with Weeden being our starter, but I'd hope the team would look for another QB maybe mid draft or late draft. Plus another as a UFDA just for camp fodder or to take over the PS spot from Crompton.
I'm begining to think this way, over the next few months my opinions will be going from one player to another but I could warm up to Weeden, he allows us to trade back pick up more picks and still get him later in the draft. Possibly our 2nd round pick (38 I beleive).
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this guy's ego is off the scale! If we keep our two backups as the only qbs on the roster I want his bags packed!
After reading the article, what made you draw either of these conclusions?
I thought it was unusually (albeit purposefully deceptive, I'm sure) informative and interesting......
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After reading the article, what made you draw either of these conclusions?
I thought it was unusually (albeit purposefully deceptive, I'm sure) informative and interesting......
I agree. I think people see what they want to see. I took nothing from that interview that would give me the impression of some uncontrollable ego.
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Old 01-27-2012, 07:45 PM   #8
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

I also found this to be interesting from the Rams message boards....
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If "I" were the Redskins, I would try and think of ways to take "RG III" away from the Cleveland Browns! I personally feel the Browns need to address their GAPING HOLE at the RB position, But that's just me. But when I thought of this today, it just really makes sense for both teams. I would give the # 2. Pick and OLB: "Chris Chamberlain" (74-Tkl. 2-Sacks) to the Redskins for the # 6. Pick and OLB: "Brian Orakpo!"




"Orakpo" is only due to make $3.8M in 2012, so he wont hurt us terribly in Cap space, and he provides the Blitz punch "Gregg Williams requires for that aggressive and risky defense he runs. Remember, either Iowa's "Riley Reiff" or Stanford's "Jonathan Martin" will be staring at you when the 6th Pick comes around for the Rams at LT. And Washington NEEDS "RG III" in a very bad way, and if the Rams were smart, they'd start finding CREATIVE ways to fill important positions on Defense without relying on rookie draft picks to save the 2012 campaign.
Now, what if.... the Skins are interested in this trade? But it's not for RGIII? What if the Skins are trying to move up in order to pick up Blackmon (WR) at #2 so they can pick up Weeden in round 2 as a one two punch similar to what Cinci did this last year? I could even see the team trying to move up into the back end of the 1st round just to pick up Weeden.

I know there was some grumbling about Orakpo being traded. He's good but not great in the 3-4. He had trouble covering some TE's. Maybe the team is happy with how someone else performed when on the field. Maybe they think they can find another player to replace Orakpo relatively easy and with Jarvis Jenkins on the DL next year it might not matter(how good the OLB really is). Rams get a decent 4-3 DE and have the #6 pick to get a LT to replace theirs that retired.

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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

If we trade up to get a reciever I'll be pissed
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If we trade up to get a reciever I'll be pissed
All I'm saying is I could see it. If they are interested in Weeden then why not go out and grab his WR he has worked with in college and whom he is on the same page with already. Here's another nice article about our WR situation, and it makes sense in referense to who will probably stay and who should probably go...
Washington Redskins: Extreme Makeover for the Wide Receiver Position? | Washington Redskins

All I'm suggesting is if the coaching staff is happy with Weeden and his abilities and think he will work out fine and he's not 1st round talent then why not pick up a WR in the 1st round? maybe even one that he knows and feels comfortable with. Then throw in Hankerson in the mix and Gaffney. Then I wouldn't have a problem if the team went out and picked up Eddie Royal (26), whom MS drafted when he was the HC there(Denver). Eddie would probably be estatic to get back to an offense that made him look good.

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If we trade up to get a reciever I'll be pissed
I gotta agree. If anything we should move up to get one of the 2 QBs or trade our 1st for Bradford. If that doesnt happen, if Clairbourne, Kalil or Blackmon isnt there at our pick, we need to trade back. The only move up should be for a QB
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Seriously doubt we'd move up for a receiver...unless you mean 4th to 3rd
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Considering this franchise has never had a franchise QB and the obvious hole on this roster is a QB. YOU WILL NOT WIN if you do not have a great QB...bottom line! Your offense is not soooo awesome that you can win with a average QB!!
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Considering this franchise has never had a franchise QB and the obvious hole on this roster is a QB. YOU WILL NOT WIN if you do not have a great QB...bottom line! Your offense is not soooo awesome that you can win with a average QB!!
Because the league has become more of a passing league over the last 10 years, gotta have a solid QB these days and in most cases you better a have decent backup as well.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

What about this package:

Rams get:
2012 pick #6
2012 4th rounder
Santana Moss
2013 1st rounder

Redskins get:
2012 pick #2 (RGIII)
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