Trayvon Martin Case

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Really? Since when?

Mostly ever other Leap Year or when I remember.

Hope you're having a fantastic 4th!

[JoeRedskin]

Thanks! Drinking beer. Playing wrestle and tumble with my boy. Having friends over later for beer, food and fireworks. It's a damn fine day.

Hope the you are enjoying yours as well.

[Gary84Clark]

Myths about the killing of Trayvon Martin

A widely circulated photograph of Martin wearing a Hollister T-shirt shows him much younger than he was the night he died.

Those who fervently believe that Martin was a thug or a thug-in-training are especially incensed by the photo of him smiling in a red Hollister T-shirt. Not only do they claim that the photo makes Martin look more innocent and sympathetic, they also charge that it depicts him at a much younger age than he was when he was killed. Their assumption is that Martin is between 11 and 14 years old in the photo. For more than a year, some have been sharing what one reader told me was “an up-to-date photo” of Martin. The person in the photo is the rapper Game, who was about 30 years old when the snapshot was taken for XXL magazine in 2010.

[JoeRedskin]

So ... stupid people with an agenda lied to counter a lie told by other stupid people with an agenda. That's relevant to the actions TM and Z took on the night in question how?

You continue to reach for stupidity and fall short of the mark.

[Chico23231]

Zim is lying to save his ass at this point.

[RedskinRat]

Shiping Bao: Intellectual titan or burbling idiot?

I can't believe someone with his credentials is so inarticulate.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Shiping Bao: Intellectual titan or burbling idiot?

I can't believe someone with his credentials is so inarticulate.

Read the Bao testimony the other day. The bit with his notes was another classic "WTF??" moment by the prosecution. While, ultimately, they ended up, IMO, being non-critical, I was thinking to myself "What? How could the prosecution let him on the stand with anything in his hands, on his person or within his reach that hadn't been preapproved by the prosecutor." Serious nuts and bolts trial work.

My standard instruction is, bring nothing with you to Court I haven't seen and reviewed with you. Don't take anything to the stand unless I have put it in your hands. No notes, no documents, no business cards, etc. Don't have your briefcase in your car. Nothing, nothing, nothing. If you think you need something, give it to me. I have had folks dump out their wallets to make sure they didn't have something they shouldn't.

I just laughed when the guy said "I would prefer not to show you my notes." Tough sh** bozo - I get to see them; Hope you gave a copy of your handwritten notes to your attorney before I look at these, b/c, after you have referred to them during my questioning, I get them first.

[RedskinRat]

Deputy Sheriff (Zimmerman's Uncle) clearly has more weight to his testimony than any of the witnesses fielded by the Prosecution.

[saden1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRXI...e_gdata_player

[RedskinRat]

All part of the dance, saden1.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

All part of the dance, saden1.

I see it different, I see it as laying out the facts of the case intuitively and soundly.

[JoeRedskin]

Looking at the testimony today, it highlights the central issue in this matter.

- On Friday, Trayvon's Mom and Brother were certain that the screams heard on the tape were Trayvon's. The Brother less so, but the Mother testified that it was Trayvon "without a doubt".

- So far today, several people who knew Z well testified "without a doubt" the screaming on the tapes was that of Zimmerman.

I don't think any were lying - I thik all firmly believed that they were telling the truth and were convinced of their correctness. Nonetheless, and despite their certainty, someone is wrong and there is simply no way to prove who it is.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Nonetheless, and despite their certainty, someone is wrong and there is simply no way to prove who it is.

Can't they tell via voice analysis?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Can't they tell via voice analysis?

I know there was discussion but remember reading that, due to the other sounds on the recording, there simply was not enough tape of the "clean" sample to get a reasonably reliable analysis. Both sides had experts but pretty sure both were prohibited b/c they couldn't say anything to a "reasonable degree of scientific certainty".

[RedskinRat]

The jury has to go with 'Not guilty', anything else would be a travesty.

It doesn't change the fact that the 'Stand your ground' law needs to be revised.