Taylor Effing Heinicke

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I know there's one game left, but I think we can safely say now that TH is not the long term answer as the starter. Good backup and I hope he sticks around in that role, but his arm is simply too limited in terms of strength and accuracy.

Back to square one this offseason.

Yeah he has one of the weakest arms that I can remember. But the main issue is he's terribly inaccurate on any throw over 10 yards.

He's a poor mans Fitz, can move well and make some plays here and there but isn't a good enough passer to lead a team

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yeah he has one of the weakest arms that I can remember. But the main issue is he's terribly inaccurate on any throw over 10 yards.

He's a poor mans Fitz, can move well and make some plays here and there but isn't a good enough passer to lead a team

If you watch him, too often he's not properly squared when he throws the ball (ie, off balance, throwing off back foot). So, it exacerbates his weak arm.

Heck! He threw off his back foot on his last pass which resulted in the game-winning INT for the Eagles. He doesn't have the arm strength nor accuracy to continue to throw the ball off his back foot.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

If you watch him, too often he's not properly squared when he throws the ball (ie, off balance, throwing off back foot). So, it exacerbates his weak arm.

Heck! He threw off his back foot on his last pass which resulted in the game-winning INT for the Eagles. He doesn't have the arm strength nor accuracy to continue to throw the ball off his back foot.

Exactly, he tries to be Brett Favre but with a noodle arm

[calia]

I wonder whether RR will start Allen against the Giants to see whether he might be the better #2. Because TH has played like #2 as of late.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by calia

I wonder whether RR will start Allen against the Giants to see whether he might be the better #2. Because TH has played like #2 as of late.

The team just announced that Heinicke will start the game this Sunday. At this point, we all can agree that we want to retain Heinicke only as a backup QB.

[MTK]

Let TH finish what he started. Going to Allen now would make no sense.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

The team just announced that Heinicke will start the game this Sunday. At this point, we all can agree that we want to retain Heinicke only as a backup QB.

Not necessarily. I'd thank TH for his service and send him on his way at the end of the season. The only way TH stays in the NFL is if WFT keeps him. I don't see any teams being interested in a small, weak arm QB.

IMO Garrett Gilbert would be a better back up than TH. Bigger body and bigger arm. Heck I think GG should be starting now instead of TH.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by irish

Not necessarily. I'd thank TH for his service and send him on his way at the end of the season. The only way TH stays in the NFL is if WFT keeps him. I don't see any teams being interested in a small, weak arm QB.

IMO Garrett Gilbert would be a better back up than TH. Bigger body and bigger arm. Heck I think GG should be starting now instead of TH.

We all say things out of anger it's ok... lol

But I indeed have lost faith and left the Heineken train as of late. He shouldn't have a future here unless he's the back up. Covid and injuries, the o line, the bone head play calling
the poor defense sometimes and a lot of other unlucky shit ran through this team and while I don't think he got a complete fair shake at finishing strong and succeeding... his arm is just too questionable for me at this stage

[AnonEmouse]

To my mind:

1) TH should be #1 backup for now, and that's why he was extended last year. He offers a spark coming of the bench we don't have otherwise. But he doesn't have the arm to manage a whole season.
2) Allen should probably be gone in the offseason. He's never demonstrated the talent to be anything more than a perennial backup and we already have TH.
3) Gilbert is 30 and realistically if he really offered anything more than backup/PS squad rotation one of his 8 previous teams would have elevated him by now.

We need a new #1 and hopefully a franchise QB at that. Maybe we don't get him in this draft, but we need to draft a QB anyway this year (they might turn out to be the new TH if not #1 quality), and keep drafting one until we find our guy. The key is to avoid another Haskins at the very least. While I'm not convinced that the current staff can identify a franchise QB in the making, I'm pretty confident they're good judges of character at least.

[GridIron26]

Turner confirmed that Heinicke will be back with us next year. I'm glad we are retaining him, it's not easy to find a backup QB that the team would rally for.

This makes me wonder if we will bring back Kyle Allen as well. I hope we will.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Turner confirmed that Heinicke will be back with us next year. I'm glad we are retaining him, it's not easy to find a backup QB that the team would rally for.

This makes me wonder if we will bring back Kyle Allen as well. I hope we will.

Depending on COVID rules next year, keeping 3 QBs is probably a requirement for most teams. Hopefully we draft a guy and also keep both of them.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Turner confirmed that Heinicke will be back with us next year. I'm glad we are retaining him, it's not easy to find a backup QB that the team would rally for.

He's under contract for one more year, for cheap, so I don't know why they would say anything otherwise.

[GridIron26]

Yeah you are right, just that a few people have been saying that we shouldn't keep him so I just wanted to end this idea.