Who is Kirk Cousins?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Allow me to cherry-pick my own stats. In the first 6 games of this year, Kirk threw 6 TD passes and 8 INT's. In the last 5 games, Kirk threw 10 TD's and 2 INT's. Only 3 of his 7 fumbles were lost. There's a trend for you to consider.

I agree. The trend statistically is showing improvement over time.
However one the biggest measure that is lost on a stat sheet is how the team has recently started to rallying around each other and KC.
After reading about the timing of the players-only meeting that Dashon Goldson called Saturday night and how a few other team leaders stepped up to talk about the effort they need to give on Sundays, and the things they can still accomplish this year.
Gone (at least for now) are the days of a divided locker room and players throwing each other under the bus, like was happening when RGIII was QB.
The attitude in the locker room has greatly improved and you can not see that on a stat sheet. A player/team has to want to give it his all for his team and teammates on the field on Sundays. That shit is contagious and can build and grow.
In the past during Snyder era, when our team has sucked it was 1) level of play/lack of talent and 2) shitty effort. You have to have both talent and effort.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Allow me to cherry-pick my own stats. In the first 6 games of this year, Kirk threw 6 TD passes and 8 INT's. In the last 5 games, Kirk threw 10 TD's and 2 INT's. Only 3 of his 7 fumbles were lost. There's a trend for you to consider.

Bam!

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

rocnrik, great. Won NFC player of the week twice. Yay. However, bottom line, to date, he has roughly as many INT's and fumbles as TD passes. Just off the top of my head, an elite QB has about a 3:1 / TD:TO ratio. A good QB a 2:1 ratio. An average QB has about a 1:1 ratio.

I am not going to repeat past arguments about KC and his ceiling. Nothing this year has changed my perception of him as being consistently inconsistent. I believe he has reached his ceiling. He can win with a good team around him and when he hits on most cylinders.

If he puts a string of six games in a row with a 2:1 or better TD/TO ratio, I will be convinced he has taken a step. I fully expect, however, that he will continue his ~ 1:1 ratio.

Kirk's TD/TO ratio were:

2012 - 4/4 (3 games; 3 INT's)
2013 - 4/10 (5 games; 7 INT's)
2014 - 10/11 (6 games; 9 INT's)
2015 - 15/13 (11 games; 10 INT's)

Teams can win with numbers like these, but not consistently. To me, and to be a better than average QB, over the long run you have to score twice as much as you turn the ball over.

Again, I still believe he is the best option at this point and likely next year.

i am on the fence with Cousins . . . i see his struggles but do see consistent improvement from him, which gives me room to hope . . . so by your comment, in his last 5 games he has a 12 TD to 5 Turnover or 2.4/1 . . . that is above a good QB standard by your terms no?

see:

week 7 - 4 to 1 (3 passing, 1 rushing) - 1 fumble
week 8 - bye
week 9 - 1 to 1 (1 passing) - 1 interception
week 10 - 4 to 0 (4 passing)
week 11 - 1 to 3 (1 passing) - 1 interception, 2 fumbles
week 12 - 2 to 0 (1 passing, 1 rushing)

Total last 5 weeks: 12 TD to 5 Turnovers

[CRedskinsRule]

I waited before playing the kc hater role but he got lucky we didn't start off with a pick six.

Sent from my S6 Edge

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I waited before playing the kc hater role but he got lucky we didn't start off with a pick six.

Sent from my S6 Edge

Yes, it's scary when he throws the out route. BTW, we won the game.

You're not playing the role of a Kirk hater; you are a bonafide Kirk hater. As Roseanne Roseanneadanna used to say, "It's always something" with you guys.

Hatters gonna hat.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by ki skins fan

yes, it's scary when he throws the out route. Btw, we won the game.





You're not playing the role of a kirk hater; you are a bonafide kirk hater. As roseanne roseanneadanna used to say, "it's always something" with you guys.





Hatters gonna hat.

😊😊😊

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Yes, it's scary when he throws the out route. BTW, we won the game.

You're not playing the role of a Kirk hater; you are a bonafide Kirk hater. As Roseanne Roseanneadanna used to say, "It's always something" with you guys.

Hatters gonna hat.

I am playing a role. I would like to see them sign KC (said this elsewhere here) to a 4 year 70 to 80 million contract with the 16mill guaranteed that RG was gonna get. But I also think it's reasonable to point out his weaknesses. And if that was a pick 6 I think there was a strong chance bad kirk finishes the game.

By the way we won by 6. Guess what a pick six is worth.

Sent from my S6 Edge

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am playing a role. I would like to see them sign KC (said this elsewhere here) to a 4 year 70 to 80 million contract with the 16mill guaranteed that RG was gonna get. But I also think it's reasonable to point out his weaknesses. And if that was a pick 6 I think there was a strong chance bad kirk finishes the game.

By the way we won by 6. Guess what a pick six is worth.

Sent from my S6 Edge

OK, you're not a hater. I apologize for trying to brand you.

Concerning the out route: Kirk sucks on the out route. I cringe whenever he throws it. He needs to improve on that throw.

[53Fan]

Redskins: Kirk Cousins' play brings buzz, contract talk

[rocnrik]

How is that elite QB working out for Giants? and he has the best WR in the game or at least the best hands! even Eli can't make up for that mess they have..Look at Brees in N.O. he should get out of there. Granted Cousins threw that one bad out pass and got lucky but he still played very good ..I was more upset at play calling in the second half. Gruden does not want to put the game in Kirks hands..that is obvious! but we won and if the team continues to play with that type of spirit I don't see why we can't win the East.

[MTK]

I'm firmly on Kirk's side now, I think we can definitely move forward with him as our QB.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm firmly on Kirk's side now, I think we can definitely move forward with him as our QB.

We got one!! Can you now change your poll pick to "Superstar in the making".. 😊

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm firmly on Kirk's side now, I think we can definitely move forward with him as our QB.

Dude this all I can think of when i see your new user name

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Dude this all I can think of when i see your new user name

All im gonna say about Kirk is he is the established QB...for now. Pay him for a couple years and continue to build the team. We have no other choice at this point.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm firmly on Kirk's side now, I think we can definitely move forward with him as our QB.

Yeah I agree I was skeptical at first but he's cut down on the ints and he's making great throws. Imo he's a QB that can be our guy for the next 6-7 years.