Week 8: Redskins vs. Lions Gameday thread

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm not even that mad honestly. We were 4-12 last season, 8-8 would be a food year

That's a funny typo.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm not even that mad honestly. We were 4-12 last season, 8-8 would be a food year

Yum!

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm not even that mad honestly. We were 4-12 last season, 8-8 would be a food year

I agree, this is an 8-8 team and they are right on-track for that. IMO, its so far so good this season.

[SmootSmack]

And what's this we're lucky to be 4-4 crap? Why aren't we unlucky to be 5-3 or 6-2?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And what's this we're lucky to be 4-4 crap? Why aren't we unlucky to be 5-3 or 6-2?

Pencil in two losses against the Giants again this year. No way our line can handle them if we can't handle Vanden Bosch and Suh.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Pencil in two losses against the Giants again this year. No way our line can handle them if we can't handle Vanden Bosch and Suh.

Not sure what that has to do about my post about the first 8 games, but I believe we can split with the Giants though it will be very very tough. The Giants are much better than I thought they would be

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Pencil in two losses against the Giants again this year. No way our line can handle them if we can't handle Vanden Bosch and Suh.

You think it might be a little early to "strike your colors"?

[GusFrerotte]

Also, this game has me really thinking the McNabb pickup wasn't that much of a improvement over JC. I am not saying Donovan isn't that much better than JC, he is a lot better than JC, but I am really wondering if we were better served keeping those picks and just riding out the storm with JC. Donovan is a quality QB, but damn, with the line probably going to be a sore spot til 2012 realisitically, his effectiveness is going to be truly hampered until then, and by then he could end up a walking injury or just be on the sownward slope of his career.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Also, this game has me really thinking the McNabb pickup wasn't that much of a improvement over JC. I am not saying Donovan isn't that much better than JC, he is a lot better than JC, but I am really wondering if we were better served keeping those picks and just riding out the storm with JC. Donovan is a quality QB, but damn, with the line probably going to be a sore spot til 2012 realisitically, his effectiveness is going to be truly hampered until then, and by then he could end up a walking injury or just be on the sownward slope of his career.

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by irish

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

I agree. McNabb has made some great plays at key moments. If you think McNabb is getting sacked a lot, Jason would be on his back even more WHILE just checking down way too quick -- at least we have a big play possibility this year.

I'm very upset with Shan, but I'm not going to complain and throw any coach under the bus. I want consistency, and I want him to have his three years to build before I complain.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by irish

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

Yeah I agree, but my point is we are not going to win if Donovan is stuck with this line and to properly rebuild it, you might not see a decent line til 2012 or beyond. By that time Donovan is over the hill or a walking injury due to the lack of protection. Also in the scheme of things if we went 2-6 or 4-4 before the bye, what difference does that make? 4-12 or 8-8 isn't going to get you invited to the big playoff party. THe loss of two picks in 2011 set us back a bit for rebuilding the offensive line.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Yeah I agree, but my point is we are not going to win if Donovan is stuck with this line and to properly rebuild it, you might not see a decent line til 2012 or beyond. By that time Donovan is over the hill or a walking injury due to the lack of protection. Also in the scheme of things if we went 2-6 or 4-4 before the bye, what difference does that make? 4-12 or 8-8 isn't going to get you invited to the big playoff party. THe loss of two picks in 2011 set us back a bit for rebuilding the offensive line.

This organization has given away alot more pick and gotten a lot less in return than they have for the 2 pick they gave for DM. This year in the NFC 8-8 might just do the trick and who know they could get luck and get to 9-7, with DM they actually have a shot at getting lucky, with JC they had no shot at anything.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by irish

This organization has given away alot more pick and gotten a lot less in return than they have for the 2 pick they gave for DM. This year in the NFC 8-8 might just do the trick and who know they could get luck and get to 9-7, with DM they actually have a shot at getting lucky, with JC they had no shot at anything.

How do you figure? DMc hasn't exactly set the earth on fire. My point isn't that Donovan is bad, but the team around him is substandard, and by the time the FO does build a true contender Donovan might be used up or broken up. Did you think Donovan will get lucky with only two bona fide wideouts and a crappy line? He gives us a better chance at winning close games yeah, but is he still going to be effective in 2012?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by irish

This team is 2-6 with JC at QB and the season was over 2 weeks ago. This team is 4-4 and still a lot to play for.

JC's Last 2 weeks (with absolutely NO WRs...Louis Murphy was all he had and he's hurt):

Week 7 - 12/20, 204 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT....WIN 59-14
Week 8 - 15/27, 310 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT...WIN 33-3

Just saying.

Of course, today with McNabb/Grossman was what JC had to deal with all of last year...no QB would have won with this, except maybe Peyton Manning.



I expect this benching to fire Donovan up, he'll light the Eagles up in 2 weeks. It worked that way when he was benched by Reid.

[mooby]

You know, you can change the culture around here, you can instill hope and confidence all you want, but you can't win games if your offensive line can't run block or protect the qb.

Btw that was a bad decision to bench McNabb for Rex at the end of the 4th. I know you're trying to win games and give us a better chance, but 1. Sexy Rexy does not have any timing down with the receivers (I'd love to see the percentage of practice reps he's gotten with the first team from his time of signing up until now), 2. A bad offensive line will kill you no matter who's playing behind it, and 3. Even if he does win the game, you might be planting the seed of doubt in McNabb's head that he would want to sign an extension and finish the year. But that's not to say that'd be a good thing, because his play this season hasn't exactly made us rush to sign him to an extension.

All I know is that there is a lot of questions left to be answered after this upcoming bye week. Shanny benching McNabb isn't the same as Reid benching McNabb, those two had a history together and McNabb probably knew he'd get his job back. Shanny and McNabb have had 8 games together, and are obviously still in the getting to know each other phase.