Paintrain's all encompassing 'discuss all things offseason' thread (Version 2.0)

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Which was my point earlier. No one thinks Native Americans when they think of "Redskins" because truth be told most people simply don't think of Native Americans. Let's say the name changes, do we really believe all these clamoring for a name change are gonna say "Well'that's just the first step. Let's improve their living conditions, address issues such as illiteracy, alcoholism, poverty in the NA community" No....Hell to the No. They'll just pat themselves on the back and say "Look at the change we made!"



I'm not a gung ho keep the name at all costs guy, but the fake sincerity of those that demand the name change irks me

I agree 100 %. They could give two craps about them. I still say that most people think of Indians or Native Americans when you say Redskins. Granted they think of the football team first, but you must quickly assimilate if you have ever seen our emblem no?

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yes well said and not only with this issue, but many others as well.



But with this specific issue, I'd like to know why sudden change which caused them to be offended? When did term "Redskins" suddenly cross the line as derogatory?



Back to your point of "They'll just pat themselves on the back and say "Look at the change we made"...that is a good way to put it, because these "little" and "meaningless" victories of today's culture are the easiest. When it comes to the "heavy lifting", this/our generation of people just doesnt get it.

As far as the name suddenly becoming offensive. I think - even though we all know its political bs - that the fact that regular people will maybe back the oneida tribe or bob effin costas, etc about it being offensive is just public awareness. Hell it wasnt really that long ago that restrooms had signs for "colored" people. The premise of appeasing all people is wonderful, but as i have said a million times - i dont think its offensive to most native Americans. Bruces letter says it all imo.

[NC_Skins]

In actual football news.....



@Giants

The @Giants have waived Safety Will Hill. Details: Giants waive Safety Will Hill pic.twitter.com/4DC3neydX5



Dude has been a complete moron since college. It's ok guys, he only tested positive because of second hand smoke from guys in the club.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

In actual football news.....



@Giants

The @Giants have waived Safety Will Hill. Details: Giants waive Safety Will Hill pic.twitter.com/4DC3neydX5



Dude has been a complete moron since college. It's ok guys, he only tested positive because of second hand smoke from guys in the club.

T Jax and Will Hill, your 2014 starting safties. It would be like Cypress Hill on the team. Silverblunt would be DJ Muggs.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

T Jax and Will Hill, your 2014 starting safties. It would be like Cypress Hill on the team. Silverblunt would be DJ Muggs.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

T Jax and Will Hill, your 2014 starting safties. It would be like Cypress Hill on the team. Silverblunt would be DJ Muggs.

We'll just tell them that there are Hershey bars inside the football. They'll be picking off passes left and right.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

In actual football news.....



@Giants

The @Giants have waived Safety Will Hill. Details: Giants waive Safety Will Hill pic.twitter.com/4DC3neydX5



Dude has been a complete moron since college. It's ok guys, he only tested positive because of second hand smoke from guys in the club.

Brah, most people don't know who Will Hill be. You have to refresh their memory #Sour.

THE HAPPY FOOTBALL LIFE OF WILL HILL - Every Day Should Be Saturday

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^ that is fantastic. Lololol

[Giantone]

If I'm Dan I tell the NFL and anyone else ,ok, you want to change the name ,I want a new stadium and a super bowl in it and I will change it ,what do you think ?

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Giantone

If I'm Dan I tell the NFL and anyone else ,ok, you want to change the name ,I want a new stadium and a super bowl in it and I will change it ,what do you think ?

Who pays for the stadium?

[irish]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Who pays for the stadium?

It wont be public money as long as they are called Redskins. Snyder wanting public money for a new stadium will be the reason he changes the name.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by irish

It wont be public money as long as they are called Redskins. Snyder wanting public money for a new stadium will be the reason he changes the name.

Yea and if there is money involved I don't see Snyder caring as much as he seems to care now about the name. Snyder really likes his money.

I would be opposed to anyone giving Snyder money to build a new stadium, especially either state or city.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by irish

It wont be public money as long as they are called Redskins. Snyder wanting public money for a new stadium will be the reason he changes the name.

i still think of fedex as being brand new

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For Redskins, pride — and hashtags — often precede their falls - The Washington Post

Jason Reid is very good here.

I can't tell if Bruce Allen has been unable to change the culture of the organization or whether he has changed things, and the new normal just looks a lot like the old normal. I'm not close enough to the situation to see any difference.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

For Redskins, pride — and hashtags — often precede their falls - The Washington Post

Jason Reid is very good here.

I can't tell if Bruce Allen has been unable to change the culture of the organization or whether he has changed things, and the new normal just looks a lot like the old normal. I'm not close enough to the situation to see any difference.

Let's give Bruce some time. It's his team now. The buck stops with him. Not the case the last four years. I do know this. The days of handing out bad contracts are over.