Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

[Ruhskins]

I think it is great that we are at the point as a team where we can release a veteran like McCain, because we were able to develop a young talent like Forrest.

I'm with SFREDSKIN to, as much as I like Logan, I feel like we have a lot of young talent behind him and would be fine releasing him.

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I didn’t think this would be possible, but Keim seems to think Logan could be done. I like Thomas, but damn his blocking has gotten so bad.

Also, Logan's recent injury history doesn't help his case.

[Chief X_Phackter]

They can release him, but I'd look to add a TE via free agency if they did. There are several solid younger TE options in free agency. Gesicki or Engram would be a nice addition...

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

They can release him, but I'd look to add a TE via free agency if they did. There are several solid younger TE options in free agency. Gesicki or Engram would be a nice addition...

Would Miami part ways with Gesicki though? I think Engram would be a good pick up.

Given how good our young TEs are and our depth of talent among the WRs, I'd be looking for another blocking TE.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Would Miami part ways with Gesicki though? I think Engram would be a good pick up.

Given how good our young TEs are and our depth of talent among the WRs, I'd be looking for another blocking TE.

I don't know if they have the cap space to accommodate the contract he is going to want.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I don't know if they have the cap space to accommodate the contract he is going to want.

Gesicki will be expensive. Engram, probably not much.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

They can release him, but I'd look to add a TE via free agency if they did. There are several solid younger TE options in free agency. Gesicki or Engram would be a nice addition...

No need to spend money money where don’t need it, pay Payne, Sweat and young.

[Chico23231]

I wouldn’t spend at TE if we cut him. This coming draft class has some players at TE

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I wouldn’t spend at TE if we cut him. This coming draft class has some players at TE

I would think Bieniemy would want to bring in a veteran TE if they decide to cut Thomas. Can't see him rolling with Bates, Turner, Rogers, and a rookie.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I would think Bieniemy would want to bring in a veteran TE if they decide to cut Thomas. Can't see him rolling with Bates, Turner, Rogers, and a rookie.

Well Bates will be going into his 3rd year. And you're forgetting Curtis Hodges.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well Bates will be going into his 3rd year. And you're forgetting Curtis Hodges.

That's because he's at least the 5th TE on the depth chart. Has he played a NFL snap?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

That's because he's at least the 5th TE on the depth chart. Has he played a NFL snap?

The team liked all three rookie TEs Turner, Rodgers, and Hodges. I think they were able to keep all three of them through IR and what not. I *think* Turner went on IR or something like that?

I don't mind them bringing a veteran TE, but I know that all three rookies showed a lot of promise this past off-season, to the point that they did not want to release them.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Spotrac estimates their next contracts like this:

Gesicki: 4 years/$33 mil. Average salary: $8.2 mil
Engram: 3 years/$28 mil. Average salary: $9.3 mil.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I don't even remember him - Hodges.

All I know is the TE group as a whole has been unimpressive of late. Of course the LT injury and lack of capability at the QB position had a lot to do with that. Is either issue resolved? I'm not sure we know yet.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I don't even remember him - Hodges.

All I know is the TE group as a whole has been unimpressive of late. Of course the LT injury and lack of capability at the QB position had a lot to do with that. Is either issue resolved? I'm not sure we know yet.

I think the lack of impact from the TEs has had to do more with Scott Turner's playcalling. With EB, I think you're going to see more involvement from the TEs.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think the lack of impact from the TEs has had to do more with Scott Turner's playcalling. With EB, I think you're going to see more involvement from the TEs.

Yeah, that was probably a factor too, you are right.

Maybe they like the TE room as is, and maybe they think LT will come back and be the TE he was last year before he got hurt. I was just saying that if they don't, then he could be released and they could pick up another TE in free agency and have the same cap impact, but likely more production.