2011 NFL Draft: Rounds 4-7

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

yeah, he gonna have to make the team first and making the pratice squad doesnt help. Hopefully he can surprise

Well, the fella was a captain on on his college team and we have a bunch of dead weight just waiting to be jettisoned(Haynesworth and Kemo). I say that he's got the mental makeup and the team has (or SHOULD have) the space for him.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

This wasnt a particularly strong draft for Oline outside a couple tackles, couple guards/center. SS has said we got a couple guys targeted all ready in free agency.

My only disappointment with this draft was no NT choice. This draft offered a variety of options with the NT position and we walk away with no choices. Every different type of sizes, styles, etc. and we got zero. Kemo is done. I like keeping Bryant under contract and in the rotation, but we desperately need someone in there to help. Hopefully free agency can yeild us someone.

Good insight about the NT. To be fair, starting quality NT's were lacking in this class. More than any other FA, I would like us to sign Aubrayo Franklin to solidify the NT position.

If we go into the season with Bryant and Neild as our NT's, it is going to be another long season for our defense.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Good insight about the NT. To be fair, starting quality NT's were lacking in this class. More than any other FA, I would like us to sign Aubrayo Franklin to solidify the NT position.

If we go into the season with Bryant and Neild as our NT's, it is going to be another long season for our defense.

Starting NT in the draft are very tough to come by in general. But the position had decent depth this year. Franklin wants to get paid big time, i personally dont think he is worth it. But at the same time we have cleared a sh*t ton of cap space, so at a good deal, id give him a shot

[IrMitchell]

Just terrific. I love everything about this draft. This is the competition you want between four young WRs if you include Austin.

Same goes for RBs, although I've seen Royster play a significant amount of games and I'd be shocked if he ends up on the final roster, but oh well.

Kerrigan will be a stud, there's just no way you can argue that unless your name is Jamie Dukes and you're half retarded.

Jenkins is a bonus, we weren't expecting to be able to pick up so many key players later in the draft and we still managed to get a guy who was rising later in the draft year. I see Jenkins being a very solid 3-4 DE. Not as good as Carriker, but certainly acceptable.

[skinsfaninok]

^ agree my only concern is QB, who's the guy?!

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

^ agree my only concern is QB, who's the guy?!

I wish I knew! I have to trust in the FO and Shanny at his point. I have thought in my mind all along that I have no problem with Team Building this year shoreing up the many area's that are depleted (and get by with whover the best we can get at QB....for now) and working in earnest in 2012 for the francise man.
Perhaps that is what they are doing?

[r08kessl]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I wish I knew! I have to trust in the FO and Shanny at his point. I have thought in my mind all along that I have no problem with Team Building this year shoreing up the many area's that are depleted (and get by with whover the best we can get at QB....for now) and working in earnest in 2012 for the francise man.
Perhaps that is what they are doing?

I think the most encouraging thing about this entire draft is the fact that they passed on taking a QB. We have both Shanahans, two guys who build offenses and know the importance of a QB to running that offense, and yet they passed on all the QB's. I think both of them recognized that every single QB in this draft was severely overrated due to the lack of talent, and that in addition to being overrated teams would over reach for them. That combined with the fact that the QB pool for next year looks to be much, much better and they obviously decided that they would wait for next year and get their guy instead of wasting a pick that we obviously need in other places on a QB that wasn't really going to be their guy.
Despite how much I love what we did in this years draft, I think next year we give up whatever we have to to get Andrew Luck. A lot of mediocre teams took a QB this year, and with any luck one of them will be picking first and Luck will be ours for the taking. When you have a guy that has the talent, size, and smarts to be the next great QB you give up what you have to, to go get him.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by r08kessl

I think the most encouraging thing about this entire draft is the fact that they passed on taking a QB. We have both Shanahans, two guys who build offenses and know the importance of a QB to running that offense, and yet they passed on all the QB's. I think both of them recognized that every single QB in this draft was severely overrated due to the lack of talent, and that in addition to being overrated teams would over reach for them. That combined with the fact that the QB pool for next year looks to be much, much better and they obviously decided that they would wait for next year and get their guy instead of wasting a pick that we obviously need in other places on a QB that wasn't really going to be their guy.
Despite how much I love what we did in this years draft, I think next year we give up whatever we have to to get Andrew Luck. A lot of mediocre teams took a QB this year, and with any luck one of them will be picking first and Luck will be ours for the taking. When you have a guy that has the talent, size, and smarts to be the next great QB you give up what you have to, to go get him.

Totally...Totally..and OMG I hate to even think what it will take to trade into the "Luck" pick.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Totally...Totally..and OMG I hate to even think what it will take to trade into the "Luck" pick.

I think Cleveland will be deeply involved in the Luck Lottery, barring either a McCoy break out year, or a Luck meltdown. Remember, they just got Atlanta's 1st, and 4th pick, plus theirs. They could offer 2 1sts and the next year 1st to whoever gets the first overall. (and with Baltimore and Pitt twice next year), chances are Cleveland's own pick will be top 15.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Totally...Totally..and OMG I hate to even think what it will take to trade into the "Luck" pick.

I don't think that will even be a possibility.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by r08kessl

I think the most encouraging thing about this entire draft is the fact that they passed on taking a QB. We have both Shanahans, two guys who build offenses and know the importance of a QB to running that offense, and yet they passed on all the QB's. I think both of them recognized that every single QB in this draft was severely overrated due to the lack of talent, and that in addition to being overrated teams would over reach for them. That combined with the fact that the QB pool for next year looks to be much, much better and they obviously decided that they would wait for next year and get their guy instead of wasting a pick that we obviously need in other places on a QB that wasn't really going to be their guy.
Despite how much I love what we did in this years draft, I think next year we give up whatever we have to to get Andrew Luck. A lot of mediocre teams took a QB this year, and with any luck one of them will be picking first and Luck will be ours for the taking. When you have a guy that has the talent, size, and smarts to be the next great QB you give up what you have to, to go get him.

Shanahan had only to look at his current roster and see a QB...[John Beck] who had better numbers coming out of college than the vast majority of top QB prospects in this 2011 draft. He was forced to play before he was ready and his career has suffered as a result. The exact same thing is going to happen to the reached in this draft. Shanahan took the safe way and decided not to take the leap when equal or better may already be in his lap.

[REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE]

Originally Posted by r08kessl

I think the most encouraging thing about this entire draft is the fact that they passed on taking a QB. We have both Shanahans, two guys who build offenses and know the importance of a QB to running that offense, and yet they passed on all the QB's. I think both of them recognized that every single QB in this draft was severely overrated due to the lack of talent, and that in addition to being overrated teams would over reach for them. That combined with the fact that the QB pool for next year looks to be much, much better and they obviously decided that they would wait for next year and get their guy instead of wasting a pick that we obviously need in other places on a QB that wasn't really going to be their guy.

I agree 1000%, I didnt particularly care for any of these QBs. Maybe Cam or Locker, but that was it, and I didnt care too much for them. I wish some of these nut cases that have been going crazy that we didnt draft a QB read RO8kessl post. It was the 5th round of a lukewarm QB draft class and people were "DRAFT A QB, DRAFT A QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".....For what???? so we could get another Patrick Ramsey or Jason Campbell. Dam that, if we draft a QB, he needs to be the ONE. That beast stud QB. Im tired of us ALWAYS having mediocre QBs. Id rather spend that pick on another position.

Whos the QB next year? To be honest, I dont care. McNabb, Beck, Grossman, Vince Young (who actually wouldnt be as bad as most people think. When he got his head back in the game, he had those Titans ballin at one point. He looked really good). It doesnt matter, because we have to get that Oline going, plus we need to get the rest of the offense around him going to, before we decide to get our QB of the future. By next season, our offense (all together) should be MUCH better, and our future QB will be set up to have a great chance of being successful. Not sure how I feel about the RBs we drafted, but overall, I really like this draft.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE

I agree 1000%, I didnt particularly care for any of these QBs. Maybe Cam or Locker, but that was it, and I didnt care too much for them. I wish some of these nut cases that have been going crazy that we didnt draft a QB read RO8kessl post. It was the 5th round of a lukewarm QB draft class and people were "DRAFT A QB, DRAFT A QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".....For what???? so we could get another Patrick Ramsey or Jason Campbell. Dam that, if we draft a QB, he needs to be the ONE. That beast stud QB. Im tired of us ALWAYS having mediocre QBs. Id rather spend that pick on another position.

Whos the QB next year? To be honest, I dont care. McNabb, Beck, Grossman, Vince Young (who actually wouldnt be as bad as most people think. When he got his head back in the game, he had those Titans ballin at one point. He looked really good). It doesnt matter, because we have to get that Oline going, plus we need to get the rest of the offense around him going to, before we decide to get our QB of the future. By next season, our offense (all together) should be MUCH better, and our future QB will be set up to have a great chance of being successful. Not sure how I feel about the RBs we drafted, but overall, I really like this draft.

Good Post....your assessment has been shared by many. Imagine how dull and unimaginative any opinion generated discussion would be if everyone agreed. Your points in reference to the drafting of QB's is well taken though, you won't have to search far and wide to find those who will agree with you.....including the coach.

[Defensewins]

Shanahan & Allen have to be applauded for realizing the Redskins are not going to restocked with talent in one year. It will take at least two years to do it the right way. The QB AND OL talent was not deep in this draft and many teams needed both, causing high demand and reaching. This draft was a lot deeper on defense in particular with DL/OLB's/CB's and later rounds (3-7) with RB's, WR's LB's and DB's.
Shan/Allen turned this situation to their advantage rather than panicking thinking the world would explode if we did not take a QB. They made solid moves instead. This ain't Vinny and Danny anymore. We got us some professional football men running out FO. HTTR!

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

^ agree my only concern is QB, who's the guy?!

Whose the guy?

The guy is Rex Grossman, Followed by John Beck, and possibly Bruce Gradkowski whenever FA starts.

The guy though is who we get next year, hopefully Andrew Luck.