Paintrain's all encompassing 'discuss all things offseason' thread (Version 2.0)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

When it is all said and done, I don't think it will be Orakpo who is our best defensive player. (He is the best now and I think we sign him long term) but in the long run I dont think he will be the best.

Trick question. The answer is RG3...because the best defense is a good offense

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would've probably said DHall since he takes the opponents best WR.<snip>

Yeah, I agree with this. Orakpo's the best defensive player we have, but not the most indispensable. That would be DeAngelo Hall. If Orakpo had walked, we'd still have Kerrigan, Murphy, Jackson, and Jenkins at OLB; not exactly bare at that spot. But if DeAngelo were gone, who covers the #1's? 2nd year pro Amerson? Porter? Hall's loss would be devastating.

Edit: That being said, Orakpo is also important to the D. Definitely worth the money he's getting.

[Dirtbag59]

FYI Desean Jackson coming up on NFL Total Access. You can watch it now or in one of the 50 million reruns they'll be showing between now and tomorrows episode.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

In fairness, they were only talking about defensive players. Given the state of our defense, not sure anyone is "indispensable" but Rak is probably the closest to an indispensable defensive player we have.

Agreed, although there is a chance Hatcher is the beast of the least this year.

[Chico23231]

I think we will see much improved play at ILB and Safety this year from the defense. Fletcher struggled immensely as did Rambo and oft-injuried Merriweather. Its all about key guys staying healthy.

Word around OTAs, Keenan Robinson and Phillip Thomas looked really good, stood out. I know its early, but wouldnt surprise me to see both excell in camp and get a chance to start.

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Great to hear. Especially about Thomas. What a bonus it would be if this guy stays healthy and contributes the way i think he can.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Great to hear. Especially about Thomas. What a bonus it would be if this guy stays healthy and contributes the way i think he can.

1. Yes. It would be great. It would almost be like getting extra draft picks this year since they would be getting on the field for the first time.

2. I remember the exact same things being said about Jenkins in his second year after coming back from a rookie injury. Once they went live, he has never been better than "meh".

I hope Thomas and Robinson bring it in the regular season. Count me amongst the uber-skeptical on these two. Thomas is one year removed from playing and Robinson two - and that's from the college level. The shock and speed of the September pro game in full pads is incomparable to Spring's shorts and tees. I will believe it when I see it.

[SirLK26]

Redskins WR DeSean Jackson (hamstring) remains sidelined | Comcast SportsNet Washington

I hope this doesn't turn into a serious problem. I don't know much about hamstring injuries, but Miles Austin was pretty much decimated by them. Don't recall hearing about Jackson having issues with the Eagles though, so it's probably nothing.

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Espn goin to skins camp in a few minutes if you are in front of a tv

[los panda]

#37 thanks us for his time here, reminds me of rock cartwright. real redskins.

[MTK]

Imagine what RGIII will command?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Imagine what RGIII will command?

Exactly and Andrew Luck, both on the same year.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Imagine what RGIII will command?

Yeah first 200 Million dollar player.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Yeah first 200 Million dollar player.

Not with his knees ,not unless he wins a super bowl or two .

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Imagine what RGIII will command?

Man has a lot of money riding on his performance this year.