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Dave Butz Baby! · 04-30-2004, 07:30 PM

To come back to the original purpose of this post (and not to interrupt the debate), but it appears that the US Government has in fact declared Pat Tillman a hero. He was awarded the Silver Star today for performing his duty "without regard to his personal safety". He returned to an ambush to save the remainder of his platoon who was surrounded by hostile forces.

From the AP...

The Army gave the following account of Tillman's actions:

"Tillman's platoon was split into two sections. Tillman was the team leader of the lead section when the trail section began receiving suppressive mortar and small-arms fire. ... [The] cavernous terrain made it extremely difficult to target enemy positions, and there was no room for the trail element to maneuver out of the kill zone.

Even though his element was out of the area that had come under fire, Tillman "ordered his team to dismount and maneuvered his team up a hill toward the enemy's location," the Army said.

During the battle, he issued "fire commands to take the fight to the enemy on the dominating high ground," the statement continued.

"Only after his team engaged the well-armed enemy did it appear their fires diminished."

Because of Tillman's leadership and his team's efforts, the trail section under fire "was able to maneuver through the ambush to positions of safety without a single casualty," the Army said.

He did save many of his fellow soldiers. This would make him a hero in the traditional sense of the word.

Daseal · 04-30-2004, 08:59 PM

Anything I say I don't mean as hostile, even though I know it comes across as such.

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-01-2004, 12:21 AM

what is it about politics that sets almost everyone on the defensive? personally i don't care as much as i should about what's going on with the government but when someone has a viewpoint different from myself, then it's on like donkey kong.

JoeRedskin · 05-01-2004, 12:29 AM

Probably because so much of a person's value system gets tied up in political ideaology. It's not just that you disagree with a point of view - by disagreeing with someone on some of these points, you are in a very real way calling into question their view of right and wrong.

skinsfanthru&thru · 05-01-2004, 12:42 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sport...ory?id=1793234

i hope they don't allow this stuff to happen cuz from all the interviews and whatnot, this is the type of stuff Tillman didn't want any part of.

offiss · 05-01-2004, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Probably because so much of a person's value system gets tied up in political ideaology. It's not just that you disagree with a point of view - by disagreeing with someone on some of these points, you are in a very real way calling into question their view of right and wrong.

That was very well said JR.

Gmanc711 · 05-03-2004, 06:50 PM

If Anyone watched the Memorial for Tillman, one of his fellow Rangers told the story of his death. It was quite a heroic event if you ask me.

RedskinRat · 05-03-2004, 07:45 PM

Guys, please take the hostilities somewhere else, like personal email or IM. This is a Redskins/Football message board.

cpayne5 · 05-08-2004, 03:35 PM

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04-30-2004, 07:30 PM	#1
Dave Butz Baby! Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reston, VA Age: 56 Posts: 450	To come back to the original purpose of this post (and not to interrupt the debate), but it appears that the US Government has in fact declared Pat Tillman a hero. He was awarded the Silver Star today for performing his duty "without regard to his personal safety". He returned to an ambush to save the remainder of his platoon who was surrounded by hostile forces. From the AP... The Army gave the following account of Tillman's actions: "Tillman's platoon was split into two sections. Tillman was the team leader of the lead section when the trail section began receiving suppressive mortar and small-arms fire. ... [The] cavernous terrain made it extremely difficult to target enemy positions, and there was no room for the trail element to maneuver out of the kill zone. Even though his element was out of the area that had come under fire, Tillman "ordered his team to dismount and maneuvered his team up a hill toward the enemy's location," the Army said. During the battle, he issued "fire commands to take the fight to the enemy on the dominating high ground," the statement continued. "Only after his team engaged the well-armed enemy did it appear their fires diminished." Because of Tillman's leadership and his team's efforts, the trail section under fire "was able to maneuver through the ambush to positions of safety without a single casualty," the Army said. He did save many of his fellow soldiers. This would make him a hero in the traditional sense of the word. __________________ Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

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04-30-2004, 08:59 PM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 8,341	Anything I say I don't mean as hostile, even though I know it comes across as such.

05-01-2004, 12:21 AM	#3
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,815	what is it about politics that sets almost everyone on the defensive? personally i don't care as much as i should about what's going on with the government but when someone has a viewpoint different from myself, then it's on like donkey kong.

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JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Probably because so much of a person's value system gets tied up in political ideaology. It's not just that you disagree with a point of view - by disagreeing with someone on some of these points, you are in a very real way calling into question their view of right and wrong.

05-01-2004, 12:42 AM	#5
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,815	http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sport...ory?id=1793234 i hope they don't allow this stuff to happen cuz from all the interviews and whatnot, this is the type of stuff Tillman didn't want any part of.

05-03-2004, 06:50 PM	#7
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 40 Posts: 7,506	If Anyone watched the Memorial for Tillman, one of his fellow Rangers told the story of his death. It was quite a heroic event if you ask me.

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