Brunell is Bad

That Guy · 02-28-2006, 10:23 AM

rabach was fine and i don't see any need to upgrade there, but he's not an elite center by any means. there's an arguement that samuels is the #5 LT (no way in #$%% he's #4 or above), but i'd prefer more consistant guys. sometimes samuels just decides to quit on a play and let someone go right by him or something equally boneheaded (i believe the greenish football stat site did a super intensive analysis of the 2004 OL and that outlined that).

and the pro bowl means nothing. vick made the pro bowl after a terrible year (even brunell's stats were much better :P). cooley missed the pro bowl when his stats were WAY beyond the alt that got in ahead of him.

12thMan · 02-28-2006, 01:03 PM

Dude, bottom line - you're full of it. I think you've shaken this rug enough.
I think you're insightful enough to know that this is truly a bogus argument.

Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God
Believe it or not, I am not biased. I like Brunell' character and personality and he comes across as a good guy. I thought Brunell was the best QB on our roster last season(means nothing). And I don't think '04 was his fault at all. I blame the OL and new team scheme. Giving him credit for last's turn around is irresponsible. We have all seen Gibb's ability to plug components into his system and find success(Rypien and Williams). My point is brunell is a component in an already successful scheme that needed one year to re-tool. The offense is working well together and that is the result of gibb's teaching not brunell's leadership. I think my perspective is much like gibb's right. he brought brunell in to run the offense. he brought in a rookie to be taught. he got what he needed out of brunell but wishes it had been a little more.

Gibb's knows Brunell sucks, that is why he drafted Campbell and that's why campbell will be our opening day starter.

Cooley 350Z · 02-28-2006, 01:32 PM

I can't believe this discussion is still going on. Nobody on here is saying Mark Brunell is the premiere QB in the NFL, but this is a guy who 3/4 through the season was at the top of the list of candidates for Comeback Player of the Year before getting injured. Now I'm sorry, but you don't get that sort of recognition simply because your a "component of a system", and to say that player is "bad" is just ignorant.

Would I like to see a little better production from our QB position? Of course. Does a part of me hope the QB position is an open competition so JC can light it up & be our starter? Absolutely. Is Mark Brunell a "Bad" QB? No way in hell.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-28-2006, 02:19 PM

Ugggg, I've entered a time warp to last September. Maybe we should debate in 9 separate threads whether it was wise to let go of Stephen Davis. This topic is as tired as the elastic on J.Lo.'s panties.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2006, 02:29 PM

Yeah and 50/50 is going to be our premier receiver this year!

That Guy · 02-28-2006, 03:22 PM

it musst be offseason, i think we're done now :P

besides, we have more important things to worry about, like... should we bring in TO, OR should with bring in TO, randy Moss, Meshawn and the defense from the 85 bears? I hear they're only asking for a 7th round pick.

jordanz301 · 02-28-2006, 03:34 PM

PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD...we all beat it to DEATH! this is really how u know its the offseason

MTK · 02-28-2006, 03:37 PM

gladly

02-28-2006, 10:23 AM	#1
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Brunell is Bad rabach was fine and i don't see any need to upgrade there, but he's not an elite center by any means. there's an arguement that samuels is the #5 LT (no way in #$%% he's #4 or above), but i'd prefer more consistant guys. sometimes samuels just decides to quit on a play and let someone go right by him or something equally boneheaded (i believe the greenish football stat site did a super intensive analysis of the 2004 OL and that outlined that). and the pro bowl means nothing. vick made the pro bowl after a terrible year (even brunell's stats were much better :P). cooley missed the pro bowl when his stats were WAY beyond the alt that got in ahead of him.

02-28-2006, 01:03 PM	#2
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Brunell is Bad Dude, bottom line - you're full of it. I think you've shaken this rug enough. I think you're insightful enough to know that this is truly a bogus argument. Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God Believe it or not, I am not biased. I like Brunell' character and personality and he comes across as a good guy. I thought Brunell was the best QB on our roster last season(means nothing). And I don't think '04 was his fault at all. I blame the OL and new team scheme. Giving him credit for last's turn around is irresponsible. We have all seen Gibb's ability to plug components into his system and find success(Rypien and Williams). My point is brunell is a component in an already successful scheme that needed one year to re-tool. The offense is working well together and that is the result of gibb's teaching not brunell's leadership. I think my perspective is much like gibb's right. he brought brunell in to run the offense. he brought in a rookie to be taught. he got what he needed out of brunell but wishes it had been a little more. Gibb's knows Brunell sucks, that is why he drafted Campbell and that's why campbell will be our opening day starter.

02-28-2006, 01:32 PM	#3
Cooley 350Z Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 43 Posts: 209	Re: Brunell is Bad I can't believe this discussion is still going on. Nobody on here is saying Mark Brunell is the premiere QB in the NFL, but this is a guy who 3/4 through the season was at the top of the list of candidates for Comeback Player of the Year before getting injured. Now I'm sorry, but you don't get that sort of recognition simply because your a "component of a system", and to say that player is "bad" is just ignorant. Would I like to see a little better production from our QB position? Of course. Does a part of me hope the QB position is an open competition so JC can light it up & be our starter? Absolutely. Is Mark Brunell a "Bad" QB? No way in hell. __________________ <PeterGriffinVoice> Lotta Honky's In Here... </PeterGriffinVoice>

02-28-2006, 03:22 PM	#6
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Brunell is Bad it musst be offseason, i think we're done now :P besides, we have more important things to worry about, like... should we bring in TO, OR should with bring in TO, randy Moss, Meshawn and the defense from the 85 bears? I hear they're only asking for a 7th round pick.

02-28-2006, 03:34 PM	#7
jordanz301 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: damascus, maryland Age: 38 Posts: 161	Re: Brunell is Bad PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD...we all beat it to DEATH! this is really how u know its the offseason __________________ "meet sean taylor"

02-28-2006, 02:19 PM	#4
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Brunell is Bad Ugggg, I've entered a time warp to last September. Maybe we should debate in 9 separate threads whether it was wise to let go of Stephen Davis. This topic is as tired as the elastic on J.Lo.'s panties.

02-28-2006, 02:29 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Brunell is Bad Yeah and 50/50 is going to be our premier receiver this year! __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2006, 03:37 PM	#8
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Brunell is Bad gladly __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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