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Old 03-09-2006, 12:10 AM   #1
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Re: Why We Shouldn't Go Crazy in Free Agency

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Might as well trash this thread! Check out the Post!

Time to kick the tires on Redskins1. In 24 hours the first big name will be on board! ha ha ha
I think this thread was meant to try and temper our exuberance over the new deal and the all the shiny new free agents it would allow us to get. Notice it was started after the new CBA was accepted.
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Old 03-09-2006, 06:58 AM   #2
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I think this thread was meant to try and temper our exuberance over the new deal and the all the shiny new free agents it would allow us to get. Notice it was started after the new CBA was accepted.
I disagree. They pulled in several big names Gibbs' first year and that paid off.
They were muted last year and made some moves so they could be more aggressive this year.

DE, LB, WR, K, CB, OL... These are all areas of need and they could all be filled in the first 36 hours. The teams in the East are already getting better and since they can't draft anyone decent after the third round, free agency is the only way to keep up.
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I believe this year is going to resemble one of the big spending years. There are alot of needs at key positions and Joe isn't going to use the draft to fill those immediately. FA pickups will be WR,CB,SS,QB,DE,OLB. They may draft these positions, but not with the intention of playing right away. Also K and P. No way hall is back, plus Tupa has a bad back and they aren't going to keep him around to see if he is going to play or not. Face it, this may be Joes last year on the sideline and we are going to do what ever he thinks can get him back to big one. I am not saying his last year with the Redskins, just his last on the sideline. I mean, hell GW handles the D with no input or very little input from Gibbs, admitably. and now Saunders is going to do the same with the O. Now, Joe may decide on going for it on 4th down, or go for two, but other than that he isn't going to be doing much. hell, saunders is even calling the plays. We will spend and spend heavily!!
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I disagree. They pulled in several big names Gibbs' first year and that paid off.
They were muted last year and made some moves so they could be more aggressive this year.

DE, LB, WR, K, CB, OL... These are all areas of need and they could all be filled in the first 36 hours. The teams in the East are already getting better and since they can't draft anyone decent after the third round, free agency is the only way to keep up.
i can see de and lb being filled with this, and possibly cb. im just wondering about kicker because all of htem are going to command a huge price.
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I disagree. They pulled in several big names Gibbs' first year and that paid off.
They were muted last year and made some moves so they could be more aggressive this year.

DE, LB, WR, K, CB, OL... These are all areas of need and they could all be filled in the first 36 hours. The teams in the East are already getting better and since they can't draft anyone decent after the third round, free agency is the only way to keep up.
CB? I agree we need depth, but you're not saying we should bench Springs or Rogers?

OL? We also need depth there, but you're not saying to bench one of the starters?

We definately need help at DE and WR. I don't think anyone would argue with you and I've never done so. Those are positions of need. Of course we might need help at LB because we just dumped Arrington. But getting 3 new starters wouldn't be going crazy (I've always said that was reasonable and probably to be expected). So, are you just being argumentative for its own sake, or do you actually disagree with what I said?

What I have disagreed with is people who want to upgrade starters everywhere (i.e. TE, LG, WR, SS, DT, DE, OLB). We could improve over the starters at all of those positions, but not all at once and certainly not all at once through free agency.
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CB? I agree we need depth, but you're not saying we should bench Springs or Rogers?

OL? We also need depth there, but you're not saying to bench one of the starters?

We definately need help at DE and WR. I don't think anyone would argue with you and I've never done so. Those are positions of need. Of course we might need help at LB because we just dumped Arrington. But getting 3 new starters wouldn't be going crazy (I've always said that was reasonable and probably to be expected). So, are you just being argumentative for its own sake, or do you actually disagree with what I said?

What I have disagreed with is people who want to upgrade starters everywhere (i.e. TE, LG, WR, SS, DT, DE, OLB). We could improve over the starters at all of those positions, but not all at once and certainly not all at once through free agency.
Taylor's trouble could be come the Redskis if he gose to jail....need a back up plan and that is saying Clark resigns! Three stars like DE,WR and LB would fit the bill!!! Then some vet back ups on the OL and DL.
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CB? I agree we need depth, but you're not saying we should bench Springs or Rogers?

OL? We also need depth there, but you're not saying to bench one of the starters?

We definately need help at DE and WR. I don't think anyone would argue with you and I've never done so. Those are positions of need. Of course we might need help at LB because we just dumped Arrington. But getting 3 new starters wouldn't be going crazy (I've always said that was reasonable and probably to be expected). So, are you just being argumentative for its own sake, or do you actually disagree with what I said?

What I have disagreed with is people who want to upgrade starters everywhere (i.e. TE, LG, WR, SS, DT, DE, OLB). We could improve over the starters at all of those positions, but not all at once and certainly not all at once through free agency.
I was disagreeing with the guy who said that they won't be spending a lot.

I don't think they should bench Rogers or Springs but I want Jimoh back and I also want a corner with starting credentials. Springs has missed time the last two years and I think it is likely that he will get banged up again this year. I would love it if they got RW McQ.

I do not want an OL to get benched. I am a big believer that you try to keep the same line together for a long time. It is also an area where someone is likely to miss time over the season and they need someone who could start to come in. I always worry about Samuels. It seems like he has been close to a season ender several times.

I am starting to think that Moulds would be the better wideout pick (over Bruce). They have plenty of speed. I think they need a possesion guy.

For Safety, I think that Prieleau, Stoutmire, Clark and Taylor would be all they need. I don't want Archuletta. The money would be better spent elsewhere.

I do want at least one big name hopefully on the DL. A good pass rush makes everything else easier.
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Might as well trash this thread! Check out the Post!

Time to kick the tires on Redskins1. In 24 hours the first big name will be on board! ha ha ha
The Post didn't reveal anything new about Gibbs' intentions re: free agency. He has been saying for months that the Redskins would be "aggressive" in free agency if the CBA got extended. Redskins.com has even been reporting that the Redskins were possibly looking to upgrade at WR, CB, DE and along the O-line (for depth). So, from my perspective, it's not the WP article changes anything.

As I said earlier in this and other threads, I think we'll probably add 1-3 starting-caliber players and some depth. That wouldn't unreasonable or crazy; that would be what we all have expected and the norm for an offseason. I, and I think others, would be highly surprised if Gibbs added 5+ starters.

What I was saying would be crazy, would be to go after a bunch of big-name players who are going to command 8-figure bonuses. I would be surprised if we got two players with 8-figure bonuses.
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Old 03-09-2006, 12:57 AM   #9
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If we do get a kicker I sure as hell hope he can kick a touchback! I like Hall on fieldgoals but did anybody else notice that he kicked off to the 20 yard line? Our opponent's avg field position had to be the 35 yd line. Gibbs won't stand for that.

I think Joe J. would be a good #2 and probably won't cost much. I guarentee somebody is going to overpay for Randel El and I hope it is not us!

I couldn't agree more about not going crazy (as a matter of fact I was just saying so in another thread before I notice this one) another off season like last year will suit me fine.
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go for bruce and peterson
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go for bruce and peterson
Isaac Bruce? Why would you want the guy. he is 34 years old. Small, lost a few steps, not just a step. you basing that on name and name only. I wouldn't even give him the vet minimum, especially with the young talent out in the FA market
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Isaac Bruce? Why would you want the guy. he is 34 years old. Small, lost a few steps, not just a step. you basing that on name and name only. I wouldn't even give him the vet minimum, especially with the young talent out in the FA market
because we need someone who can play wr NOW. We can draft a wr but they won't develop for a few years.
Bruce is 34, has a few years left & can still play. Wherever he goes he'll get more than the vet minimum, unless you know something about his past injuries that's keeping him from healing.
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because we need someone who can play wr NOW. We can draft a wr but they won't develop for a few years.
Bruce is 34, has a few years left & can still play. Wherever he goes he'll get more than the vet minimum, unless you know something about his past injuries that's keeping him from healing.
I cant believe everyone is so willing to pay a 34 year old receiver who is past his prime. It just doesn't make sense. If you are going to pay a 34 past their prime WR, why not take a shot at TO. Probably going to be around the same price and he is by far a better receiver than bruce. plus he is a couple of years younger. (I in no way want TO on the Redskins) I was being sarcastic before someone goes on a tangent about TO and Redskins.
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I cant believe everyone is so willing to pay a 34 year old receiver who is past his prime. It just doesn't make sense. If you are going to pay a 34 past their prime WR, why not take a shot at TO. Probably going to be around the same price and he is by far a better receiver than bruce. plus he is a couple of years younger. (I in no way want TO on the Redskins) I was being sarcastic before someone goes on a tangent about TO and Redskins.
maybe cause TOs a total asshole and bruce is a character guy.
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Dear Mr. Dan

Dont allow bruce to be taken by any team except our belovbed skins
sign him the first day
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