Lavar and Giants agree on deal

[mooby]

Wow read this L.A. suckfest from Carucci over at nfl.com

Originally Posted by vic 'i have a hardon for lavar' carucci

April 22, 2006) -- The Giants' signing of LaVar Arrington could very well prove to be the single best acquisition in this year's free-agent market.

Arrington still ranks as one of the most talented linebackers -- and one of the best players at any position -- in the NFL. I have the utmost respect for the job Gregg Williams has done in building a highly successful defense in Washington, and that clearly didn't require much help from Arrington. But just because Arrington might not have been a good fit for Williams' highly structured scheme does not mean he is incapable of thriving elsewhere. Frankly, after so much acrimony in his relationship with the Redskins, a change of scenery might just be what Arrington needs to help him regain the difference-making form he displayed earlier in his career.


Ex-Skins LaVar Arrington is ready to flex his muscles against his former team in NFC East battles.
Arrington means much more to the Giants than a plug for the huge hole they had had at weak-side linebacker. In joining ends Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora, and middle linebacker Antonio Pierce, he completes what could very well be the most dominant defensive front in the league. When healthy and focused, Arrington is capable of taking over a game. As a pass-rusher, he relies on an explosive first step that allows him to consistently beat opponents off the snap. Against the run, he has the speed and athleticism to make plays from sideline to sideline and catch runners from behind.

Of course, the Giants were wise to sign him to a contract that is heavy with incentives, and, therefore, protects them in case Arrington's knee acts up or he again becomes unhappy with his surroundings. Given the structure of the deal, my sense is that Arrington understands he has an excellent opportunity to revitalize his career and whether that happens is going to be mostly up to him.

If it does, this pickup could easily help swing the balance of power in the NFC East in the direction of the Giants and enhance their chances of being a serious postseason contender in 2006.

I bolded the parts that suck. Now i'm a big lavar fan, and even though he plays for the giants now, i still wish that he will have a good season, but carucci is acting like lavar never had any knee injuries, is still as explosive as he was earlier in his career, and is one of the best linebackers to play the game, which as we all saw post injury, he isn't.

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

Wonder what number he'll wear...I suggest a number in the 90's

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

Wonder what number he'll wear...I suggest a number in the 90's

he is wearin 55

[htownskinfan]

I cant believe all the hating i'm reading about lavar,lavar was a great player for us and he did nothing wrong to deserve this disrespect,he gave us back 4 million to get out,who else has done that?(not to mention ending a cowboys career,what other redskin has done that?)he wasnt the player he once was last yr,but so what,he loved the redskins but shit happens,we should wish him luck,(just not against us)art monk,gary sanders,charlie brown,mark mosely,they all went to other teams,great redskins,did you talk shit about them?just because they were let go by the skins instead of leaving on their own terms shouldnt matter.Just because a former player leaves the team shouldnt be an excuse to pile on him and say he sucks,you should show some respect for a former redskin

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I cant believe all the hating i'm reading about lavar,lavar was a great player for us and he did nothing wrong to deserve this disrespect,he gave us back 4 million to get out,who else has done that?(not to mention ending a cowboys career,what other redskin has done that?)he wasnt the player he once was last yr,but so what,he loved the redskins but shit happens,we should wish him luck,(just not against us)art monk,gary sanders,charlie brown,mark mosely,they all went to other teams,great redskins,did you talk shit about them?just because they were let go by the skins instead of leaving on their own terms shouldnt matter.Just because a former player leaves the team shouldnt be an excuse to pile on him and say he sucks,you should show some respect for a former redskin

I object to you putting Monk, Sanders, Brown and Mosely (NFL MVP) in the same sentence with Lavar. They are champions and that is their legacy. Lavar's legacy is based on what should have been. He didn't even win a division title let alone a Lombardi trophy. He signs the largest deal in team history and then publicly complains that he was cheated out of 6.5 million. Last year he didn't even record one sack and when the team is preparing for the playoff game he tries to make his situation the public focus. He had no problem cashing that check every week and making stupid Eastern motors commercials when the team was the laughing stock of the league. Then he goes out of his way to play for a division rival.

Why does he deserve respect, because he gave Aikman his 20th concussion during a loss?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I object to you putting Monk, Sanders, Brown and Mosely (NFL MVP) in the same sentence with Lavar. They are champions and that is their legacy. Lavar's legacy is based on what should have been. He didn't even win a division title let alone a Lombardi trophy. He signs the largest deal in team history and then publicly complains that he was cheated out of 6.5 million. Last year he didn't even record one sack and when the team is preparing for the playoff game he tries to make his situation the public focus. He had no problem cashing that check every week and making stupid Eastern motors commercials when the team was the laughing stock of the league. Then he goes out of his way to play for a division rival.

Why does he deserve respect, because he gave Aikman his 20th concussion during a loss?

I especially like the last sentence you wrote there. It really speaks volumes about how low this franchise had sunk since Gibbs left the first time. We used to be a franchise whose fans expected at the very least to make and advance to the playoffs every year. And then we started becoming satisfied with minor "moral" victories like our star LB knocking out an aging QB who had been through countless concussions already. And as you say, this was during a loss no less. Our expecations for the team had become so low that we suddenly didn't even care that our franchise players (such as LaVar) weren't making the team any better. So long as they gave us this one highlight reel.

Well, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Gibbs return is that he's reminded all us fans that our expectations should be high. That we shouldn't be satisfied with the occassional big play. No, we should demand and expect a winning team year in and year out.

I'm not saying LaVar is entirely to blame for the endless problems that surrounded his tenure here. And there's no need to badmouth him as leaves. But we shouldn't be satisfied when we look back on his tenure here by saying well he intercepted a pass against the Panthers, and he knocked out Troy Aikman. More was expected of him, and he should have provided more. He may do very well with the Giants, and maybe he'll help them win division titles, playoff games, and even more. But he didn't do that for us. And we're starting to win without him.

Ok, now I'm just rambling. Point is-good luck lavar but I think we'll be ok without him

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I especially like the last sentence you wrote there. It really speaks volumes about how low this franchise had sunk since Gibbs left the first time. We used to be a franchise whose fans expected at the very least to make and advance to the playoffs every year. And then we started becoming satisfied with minor "moral" victories like our star LB knocking out an aging QB who had been through countless concussions already. And as you say, this was during a loss no less. Our expecations for the team had become so low that we suddenly didn't even care that our franchise players (such as LaVar) weren't making the team any better. So long as they gave us this one highlight reel.

Well, the best part (or one of the best parts) about Gibbs return is that he's reminded all us fans that our expectations should be high. That we shouldn't be satisfied with the occassional big play. No, we should demand and expect a winning team year in and year out.

I'm not saying LaVar is entirely to blame for the endless problems that surrounded his tenure here. And there's no need to badmouth him as leaves. But we shouldn't be satisfied when we look back on his tenure here by saying well he intercepted a pass against the Panthers, and he knocked out Troy Aikman. More was expected of him, and he should have provided more. He may do very well with the Giants, and maybe he'll help them win division titles, playoff games, and even more. But he didn't do that for us. And we're starting to win without him.

Ok, now I'm just rambling. Point is-good luck lavar but I think we'll be ok without him

I am not sure what you are talking about with low expectations. Every year the expectations for the Redskins was playoff bound. If anything, we had high expectations(righfully so with all the money Danny spends) and under performed. That is what it seems to me. I dont blame it on one person, it was a team effort we lost every single year. But I think some of the problems started from the TOP of the organization.(Danny being too hands on). I think a difference since Joe got here is very visible. Danny isn't in the picture, he is just signing the checks. Coaches are taking over the team or who plays and who doesn't. Joe is in charge of getting his players, and GW in charge of who he plays. This is a good sign for future years. I do think the organization is on the up and up with or without LaVar (obviously without) Guess I need to change my login.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I am not sure what you are talking about with low expectations. Every year the expectations for the Redskins was playoff bound. If anything, we had high expectations(righfully so with all the money Danny spends) and under performed. That is what it seems to me. I dont blame it on one person, it was a team effort we lost every single year. But I think some of the problems started from the TOP of the organization.(Danny being too hands on). I think a difference since Joe got here is very visible. Danny isn't in the picture, he is just signing the checks. Coaches are taking over the team or who plays and who doesn't. Joe is in charge of getting his players, and GW in charge of who he plays. This is a good sign for future years. I do think the organization is on the up and up with or without LaVar (obviously without) Guess I need to change my login.

All I'm saying is it's kind of sad that the franchise had sunk so low that things like LaVar's hit on Aikman were enough to make a lot of us think that was a successful season. But that's in the past. Onward and upward now. To infinity and beyond!

[Bozzy]

This is fcuking awesome.

[Pocket$ $traight]

I hope Eli keeps throwing to Toomer so the Grim Reaper can abuse him some more.

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

Kudos to LA for soaking the Giants for $49 mil. I hope the Postons worked his contract so he gets paid whether he's on the field, on the sidelines, or on a hospital bed. I like Lavar and thought he was a good teammate while he was here. He had issues with the management, but considering the circumstances, I really couldn't blame him. Time to move on. I do think he'd be way overpaid if he gets every penny of that contract, but I don't see that happening either. As an aside, I would be curious to see if Troy Aikman starts hating on the Giants now that LA is there.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by LongTimeSkinsFan

Kudos to LA for soaking the Giants for $49 mil. I hope the Postons worked his contract so he gets paid whether he's on the field, on the sidelines, or on a hospital bed. I like Lavar and thought he was a good teammate while he was here. He had issues with the management, but considering the circumstances, I really couldn't blame him. Time to move on. I do think he'd be way overpaid if he gets every penny of that contract, but I don't see that happening either. As an aside, I would be curious to see if Troy Aikman starts hating on the Giants now that LA is there.

The contract is highly detailed and jam-packed with incentives. The only accuracy to the reported seven-year, $49 million contract figure is that it indeed is a seven-year deal. Arrington's signing bonus is $5.25 million; there are no option bonuses. There are roster bonuses in future years but they can only be triggered if Arrington achieves certain honors such as Pro Bowls and MVP awards.

There are playing-time incentives in the deal, protecting the Giants in case Arrington's right knee does not hold up. It is the very definition of a make-good deal, giving Arrington the opportunity to get paid like a star only if he plays like one. The only way he can approach earning $49 million is if he hits every single incentive during the life of the contract. Without factoring in any incentives, the contract is worth about $3.7 million per year and rises to $5 million per year if he hits the more reasonable incentives.

[GTripp0012]

We don't win the first Dallas game if Brunell doesn't scramble for about 25 yards on 3rd and a mile.

[MTK]

His contract is kinda like him as a player.

Sounds great on paper, doesn't live up to the hype.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

His contract is kinda like him as a player.

Sounds great on paper, doesn't live up to the hype.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!