Coaching Issue (I Hate to say it)

diehardskin2982 · 09-22-2006, 10:08 AM

saunders is a great coach with a great system that is PROVEN! he had the number 1 offense in kc for the past 2 years. The problem is Gibbs is influening the plays that he is calling, you can see it in how game 2 was played. that was not a typical saunders run game he throw deep on first down among other things that game had a serious commitment to the run.

That Guy · 09-22-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

saunders is a great coach with a great system that is PROVEN! he had the number 1 offense in kc for the past 2 years. The problem is Gibbs is influening the plays that he is calling, you can see it in how game 2 was played. that was not a typical saunders run game he throw deep on first down among other things that game had a serious commitment to the run.

Proven to work with the #1 O line in the league and a great QB. Neither of which we have.

diehardskin2982 · 09-22-2006, 11:10 AM

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Proven to work with the #1 O line in the league and a great QB. Neither of which we have.

our line is a bunch of underachievers and trent green wasn't great. look at him before he went to kc.... a bench warmer product of the system like collins

That Guy · 09-22-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

our line is a bunch of underachievers and trent green wasn't great. look at him before he went to kc.... a bench warmer product of the system like collins

that's incorrect. you don't get that many 4000+ yard seasons being bad. The skins really wanted to keep him here as the starter, but the ownership change screwed that up. He was the Rams starter till injury and then the chiefs starter. If you're good enough to start for three different teams and win that many more games than you lose (with a terrible defense), you're not a system QB. Which, by the way, Brunell has been accused of on many occassions in jacksonville, before he ended up on the bench for good there.

MTK · 09-22-2006, 11:55 AM

Green is a quality QB. We'd be lucky to have a QB of his caliber for as many years as he's played. It would have been nice if we could have kept him long ago.

mheisig · 09-22-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Green is a quality QB. We'd be lucky to have a QB of his caliber for as many years as he's played. It would have been nice if we could have kept him long ago.

The fans in DC were too busy looking for a scapegoat for the all the teams problems so they put it all on Green and ditched him.

Hey, sounds familiar doesn't it?

That Guy · 09-22-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mheisig

The fans in DC were too busy looking for a scapegoat for the all the teams problems so they put it all on Green and ditched him.

Hey, sounds familiar doesn't it?

the team WANTED TO KEEP HIM. the uncertainty over the ownership is why he left. so much revisionist history for one thread.

mheisig · 09-22-2006, 09:44 PM

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the team WANTED TO KEEP HIM. the uncertainty over the ownership is why he left. so much revisionist history for one thread.

But what you said makes my point a lot less relevant for the present...

dmek25 · 09-23-2006, 11:19 AM

as far as coaching staffs, i dont see snyder saying anything to any of them. besides, i think gibbs gets carte blanche with snyder

jsarno · 09-23-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

as far as coaching staffs, i dont see snyder saying anything to any of them. besides, i think gibbs gets carte blanche with snyder

Maybe he should say something, we have the most overpaid coaching staff in history at this point. Something...ANYTHING needs to be done to turn this around.

cowboykiller89 · 09-23-2006, 02:42 PM

Snyder's not gonna say anything to Gibbs or Saunders about the offense because that is not the immediate problem; our defense is! It's the same ole' shiznit with the offense; it's struggling as it did most of last season (especially in the first half of the season and in the playoffs). Give Saunders until about midway through the season, the new offense is going to take some time to develop and I think Snyder understands and can cope with that. On the contrary, the defense is already established and should not be struggling! It's an excuse to say that the defense is struggling because of 1 players' absence (Springs). There is no "i" in team!

dmek25 · 09-23-2006, 04:17 PM

dont you guys think gibbs earned the right to fix this? it really has been only 2 games

vaoutlaws2006 · 09-23-2006, 11:00 PM

Beware of the Danny. He has a knack for undermining things. He needs to keep his ass in the owners box and let the coaches do the coaching. Someone stop me with dan snyder bashing.

09-22-2006, 11:55 AM	#5
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Coaching Issue (I Hate to say it) Green is a quality QB. We'd be lucky to have a QB of his caliber for as many years as he's played. It would have been nice if we could have kept him long ago. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-23-2006, 11:19 AM	#9
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Coaching Issue (I Hate to say it) as far as coaching staffs, i dont see snyder saying anything to any of them. besides, i think gibbs gets carte blanche with snyder __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

09-23-2006, 02:42 PM	#11
cowboykiller89 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 68	Re: Coaching Issue (I Hate to say it) Snyder's not gonna say anything to Gibbs or Saunders about the offense because that is not the immediate problem; our defense is! It's the same ole' shiznit with the offense; it's struggling as it did most of last season (especially in the first half of the season and in the playoffs). Give Saunders until about midway through the season, the new offense is going to take some time to develop and I think Snyder understands and can cope with that. On the contrary, the defense is already established and should not be struggling! It's an excuse to say that the defense is struggling because of 1 players' absence (Springs). There is no "i" in team! __________________ For the love of God, PLEASE get the ball to Santana Moss!!!

09-23-2006, 04:17 PM	#12
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Coaching Issue (I Hate to say it) dont you guys think gibbs earned the right to fix this? it really has been only 2 games __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

09-23-2006, 11:00 PM	#13
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 54 Posts: 806	Re: Coaching Issue (I Hate to say it) Beware of the Danny. He has a knack for undermining things. He needs to keep his ass in the owners box and let the coaches do the coaching. Someone stop me with dan snyder bashing. __________________ The future is obviously right now!

09-22-2006, 10:08 AM	#1
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Coaching Issue (I Hate to say it) saunders is a great coach with a great system that is PROVEN! he had the number 1 offense in kc for the past 2 years. The problem is Gibbs is influening the plays that he is calling, you can see it in how game 2 was played. that was not a typical saunders run game he throw deep on first down among other things that game had a serious commitment to the run. __________________ That got ugly fast

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