T.J. Duckett Conspiracy

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Andy Reid will be in the HOF ... and philly has more than just d mac and westy (on defense at least).

You know who Andy Reid is? He's the Danny White of NFL coaches. The HOF is for coaches who win Championships and George Allen. No room for Holmgren look-alikes. Besides, everyone agrees that Donovan is The Greatest so it must have been Reid's lousy coaching that caused them to lose the Big Game EVERY TIME. If Reid is an HOFer, then the blame would lie with Donovan and that would rip the very fabric of space-time. John Madden's head would explode.

I think The T.J. Duckett Conspiracy was the band at my High School Prom.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

You know who Andy Reid is? He's the Danny White of NFL coaches. The HOF is for coaches who win Championships and George Allen. No room for Holmgren look-alikes. Besides, everyone agrees that Donovan is The Greatest so it must have been Reid's lousy coaching that caused them to lose the Big Game EVERY TIME. If Reid is an HOFer, then the blame would lie with Donovan and that would rip the very fabric of space-time. John Madden's head would explode.

I think The T.J. Duckett Conspiracy was the band at my High School Prom.

Reid has done a lot for the eagles, but you seem to discount all of it because he has never won a SB ... huh? oh, and he still has time left in his career to do it ... it might happen this year--who knows?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Reid has done a lot for the eagles, but you seem to discount all of it because he has never won a SB ... huh? oh, and he still has time left in his career to do it ... it might happen this year--who knows?

It might. I'm not holding my breath.

Are you sure your avatar isn't supposed to be an Eagles helmet?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by dmek25

those teams dont have a hall of famer coaching them. always keep that in your mind. i think a team like Philly took a superior quarterback in mcnabb, and put role players around him. other than Westbrook, their so called skill players suck. the key to any successful team is line play

Plus, keep in mind many in Philly did not consider McNabb a superior QB, as a matter of fact they didn't want the team to draft him, they wanted Ricky Williams instead. They took McNabb, drveloped him, and he has paid dividens for them, and again he was their player. We took Jason Campbell, and instead of developing him the way most teams would have, he's still at square one mainly because of our overwhelming desire to "win now". I could live with a loosing season if it meant we were attempting to develop a QB of the future. The QB is the heart and soul of every team from an offensive standpoint, it would serve us well to start thinking in that direction starting now.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Plus, keep in mind many in Philly did not consider McNabb a superior QB, as a matter of fact they didn't want the team to draft him, they wanted Ricky Williams instead. They took McNabb, drveloped him, and he has paid dividens for them, and again he was their player. We took Jason Campbell, and instead of developing him the way most teams would have, he's still at square one mainly because of our overwhelming desire to "win now". I could live with a loosing season if it meant we were attempting to develop a QB of the future. The QB is the heart and soul of every team from an offensive standpoint, it would serve us well to start thinking in that direction starting now.

It didn't hurt Palmer to sit for a year, and it doesn't appear to be hurting Rivers to sit out two years. Campbell is going to be a great QB, but I don't know that there's any definitive proof that he'd be better off long-term playing right now. Didn't Delhomme sit a few years as well?

What I would like is for Campbell to play in NFL Europe next spring

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

What I would like is for Campbell to play in NFL Europe next spring

I think sending Campbell to Europe would be a horrible move. The amount of experience he would get would be minimal and he would probably be protected by bad offensive linemen. Also he would miss some of the offseason drills where a lot of offensive can chemistry be built. NFLE is for players on the bubble who are struggling to make an NFL roster, no place for JC right now.

[Longtimefan]

I just finished watching the Redskins Report with George Michael, Sonny Jurgensen, John Riggins,and Michael Wilbon, again they stated the same thing they did last week. The Redskins traded for Duckett because Philadelphia was interested in him, and the didn't want to see him go to Philly. There must be some substance to it because they were all in agreement which to me means they all heard the same thing. Now if I'm Duckett, I wouldn't be pleased with a move like that at all. The Redskins have parked him in the neighbor's garage and appear to have no interest in playing him. JG has a different excuse each week as to why he will not be playing. His value is plumeting because he'll be a free agent at years end with no opportunity to play and increase his value. Talk about a conspiracy, maybe that is their plan, to stunt his growth so they won't have to give up any more than they had origionally planed with "hopes" of signing him to a new contract of lesser value than he would have recieved had he been able to showcase his talents so other teams could get a better look at what he could do. As I said before, this trade remains a complete mystery to me.

[chris36]

The plan with TJ is to keep him on the bench this year unless really needed, so as not to have to give up anymore draft choices. Betts will not sign with us next year, thats when we will use him.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by chris36

The plan with TJ is to keep him on the bench this year unless really needed, so as not to have to give up anymore draft choices. Betts will not sign with us next year, thats when we will use him.

I hope you're correct Chris, and that this is the plan. I would love for Duckett to remain with the team, but of course we have to sign him first. It's likely we'll sign either him or Betts to a new contract.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I hope you're correct Chris, and that this is the plan. I would love for Duckett to remain with the team, but of course we have to sign him first. It's likely we'll sign either him or Betts to a new contract.

Especially with Rock presenting to be a solid kick returner. I

I think Betts may be pretty good trade bait next year but we'll see. (does anyone know how many years he's got left on his contract?)

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Especially with Rock presenting to be a solid kick returner. I

I think Betts may be pretty good trade bait next year but we'll see. (does anyone know how many years he's got left on his contract?)

Both Betts and Duckett are free agents after this season. If Duckett never sees the light of day and signs elsewhere, giving up a 3rd rounder will have to go down as one of our worst trades.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Both Betts and Duckett are free agents after this season. If Duckett never sees the light of day and signs elsewhere, giving up a 3rd rounder will have to go down as one of our worst trades.

mos def

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Both Betts and Duckett are free agents after this season. If Duckett never sees the light of day and signs elsewhere, giving up a 3rd rounder will have to go down as one of our worst trades.

Thanks, I knew Duckett was on the last leg of his contract but didn't know about betts.

It's going to be interesting to see who they sign once they're left with the choice of one or the other.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Especially with Rock presenting to be a solid kick returner. I

I think Betts may be pretty good trade bait next year but we'll see. (does anyone know how many years he's got left on his contract?)

Betts is also a free agent come season's end.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

betts leaving could hurt...i think betts is great...when Portis runs good, he sees that and i think he is inspired to do better, and he does.....now duckett....jesus, it hurts to even talk about, so many missed oppurtunities to use him in the way we got him for, short yard 3rd/4th downs and goaline....
if duckett AND betts go, then we fucked up....period.