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Old 10-30-2006, 03:55 PM   #1
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Who is this Marquis guy that everyone keeps talking about?
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Nate Clements.
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Nate Clements.
we can only hope. cuz he's not old, unlike the argument on this thread.
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who will be the next big free agent acquisition by Snyder if it be this year or next???????????????

Brett Favre
Randy Moss
Michael Strahan
Ray Lewis

I know some of these guys wont be available, give me some names, so I can prepare myself for seeing through the hype of Snyder. The HYPE that gets people convinced that $35 for parking is reasonable.
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I can't believe all the people that support snyder............Did you know he charges $15-20 in parking at six flags!!!! another thing that irks me is the low quality of the food at Fed EX, considering the impressiveness of the stadium. Those two things should be enough to anger you guys.

Problem with snyder is that he's not savy enough to make his own decisions, (leading, not following) He's learning every year from his mistakes. Has he ever heard of benchmarking, doing things the way that other owners did them in the past, therefore he has no idea how to be an effective OWNER, (not businessman, there's a difference). Why are skins fans proud of our 90,000 person stadium and absurdly unnecessarily high revenues, and "squeezing under the cap" The two teams with the best records in their conferences the last 5 years were pats and eagles, the two teams furthest under the cap.
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I can't believe all the people that support snyder............Did you know he charges $15-20 in parking at six flags!!!! another thing that irks me is the low quality of the food at Fed EX, considering the impressiveness of the stadium. Those two things should be enough to anger you guys.

Problem with snyder is that he's not savy enough to make his own decisions, (leading, not following) He's learning every year from his mistakes. Has he ever heard of benchmarking, doing things the way that other owners did them in the past, therefore he has no idea how to be an effective OWNER, (not businessman, there's a difference). Why are skins fans proud of our 90,000 person stadium and absurdly unnecessarily high revenues, and "squeezing under the cap" The two teams with the best records in their conferences the last 5 years were pats and eagles, the two teams furthest under the cap.
Your really trying to tell me a Billionaire who took over the Redskins and made them the Highest grossing sports franchise in the United States is not Savvy enough, come on. I have no problem with having an owner that gives his coach everything he wants, or would you rather have an owner like the Cardinals. Why is it fun to bash Snyder about how much he charges to park and come to games, most of that money goes right back into the team, trust me Snyder does not need your money. Im damn proud to be able to go to the biggest and one of the loudest stadiums in the league, it has definately got better since Gibbs came back and when that stadium rocks you cant hear anything. And actually football is a business my friend, and what some dont seem to understand is that in the world of business men, like Danial Snyder, the goal is to make money, and I dont think hes that bad of an owner if he can take a team that has been pretty bad even before he took over and still make them a cash cow. Stop the Snyder bashing, he does not wear a uniform, he doesnt miss tackles.
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Your really trying to tell me a Billionaire who took over the Redskins and made them the Highest grossing sports franchise in the United States is not Savvy enough, come on. I have no problem with having an owner that gives his coach everything he wants, or would you rather have an owner like the Cardinals. Why is it fun to bash Snyder about how much he charges to park and come to games, most of that money goes right back into the team, trust me Snyder does not need your money. Im damn proud to be able to go to the biggest and one of the loudest stadiums in the league, it has definately got better since Gibbs came back and when that stadium rocks you cant hear anything. And actually football is a business my friend, and what some dont seem to understand is that in the world of business men, like Danial Snyder, the goal is to make money, and I dont think hes that bad of an owner if he can take a team that has been pretty bad even before he took over and still make them a cash cow. Stop the Snyder bashing, he does not wear a uniform, he doesnt miss tackles.
I'm not a fan of the business, and the top ranking revenue - I'm a fan of building a winner with staying power. I can't believe some of you feel Snyder is a genius skirting the cap every year. We carry more dead cap money than any team in the league. It's Gibbs attitude as well. I thought he'd bring roster stability upon his return, but he hasn't been able to retain core Redskins (Pierce, Smoot, Clark) because we have over-leveraged our cap every year. Teams like Philly and New England stay way under the cap to allow them to re-sign their core players as they APPROACH free agency. Both have done this brilliantly, and since they do so before their players hit the open market, they can usually retain their own at a significant discount. Tom Brady is Exhibit A - making significantly less than Peyton Manning. That doesn't mean they keep everyone, but they have the price they're willing to pay, and they're in a position to make a solid offer before their key guys are free agents. The Redskins NEVER have enough cap room to sign a guy like Pierce to an extension during the season, so we end up competing on the open market, and as history has demonstrated, we usually lose out. It burns me that we let go of self-made Redskins like Pierce and Clark, then pay a lot more for guys like Archuleta and Carter. The only year under Snyder that the Redskins have shown restraint was the lone year that Schottenheimer was in charge.
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I'm not a fan of the business, and the top ranking revenue - I'm a fan of building a winner with staying power. I can't believe some of you feel Snyder is a genius skirting the cap every year. We carry more dead cap money than any team in the league. It's Gibbs attitude as well. I thought he'd bring roster stability upon his return, but he hasn't been able to retain core Redskins (Pierce, Smoot, Clark) because we have over-leveraged our cap every year. Teams like Philly and New England stay way under the cap to allow them to re-sign their core players as they APPROACH free agency. Both have done this brilliantly, and since they do so before their players hit the open market, they can usually retain their own at a significant discount. Tom Brady is Exhibit A - making significantly less than Peyton Manning. That doesn't mean they keep everyone, but they have the price they're willing to pay, and they're in a position to make a solid offer before their key guys are free agents. The Redskins NEVER have enough cap room to sign a guy like Pierce to an extension during the season, so we end up competing on the open market, and as history has demonstrated, we usually lose out. It burns me that we let go of self-made Redskins like Pierce and Clark, then pay a lot more for guys like Archuleta and Carter. The only year under Snyder that the Redskins have shown restraint was the lone year that Schottenheimer was in charge.
Just the latest example of intelligent cap management by Philly to retain the team's core: ESPN.com - NFL - Eagles DT Patterson inks seven-year, $32M extension

Patterson joins guard Shawn Andrews, cornerbacks Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown and other top draft choices in recent years to receive extensions before their rookie contracts expire. But the Patterson deal was one of the earliest, coming in the middle of his second year.

Andy Reid is making a calculated gamble that Patterson and others will develop into solid players that would have commanded far more money if allowed to bid their services as free agents.
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Just the latest example of intelligent cap management by Philly to retain the team's core: ESPN.com - NFL - Eagles DT Patterson inks seven-year, $32M extension

Patterson joins guard Shawn Andrews, cornerbacks Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown and other top draft choices in recent years to receive extensions before their rookie contracts expire. But the Patterson deal was one of the earliest, coming in the middle of his second year.

Andy Reid is making a calculated gamble that Patterson and others will develop into solid players that would have commanded far more money if allowed to bid their services as free agents.
And here's another example (Trent Cole): Philadelphia Daily News | 11/07/2006 | Cole, Eagles agree on 5-year pact

With their solid cap management, Philly rarely let's a young core player get to free agency. Derrick Burgess is the only example I can recall of a good young player not getting an in-season extension. I'd much prefer for the Skins to leave room under the cap going into every season earmarked for retaining our core guys (like Pierce and Smoot) before they enter free agency. One more point - Philly usually gives large roster bonuses as opposed to signing bonuses. The advantage is that they ingest the roster bonus just that season instead of pro-rating a signing bonus over the life of the contract, minimizing cap impact in later years of their contracts.
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I can't believe all the people that support snyder............Did you know he charges $15-20 in parking at six flags!!!! another thing that irks me is the low quality of the food at Fed EX, considering the impressiveness of the stadium. Those two things should be enough to anger you guys.

Problem with snyder is that he's not savy enough to make his own decisions, (leading, not following) He's learning every year from his mistakes. Has he ever heard of benchmarking, doing things the way that other owners did them in the past, therefore he has no idea how to be an effective OWNER, (not businessman, there's a difference). Why are skins fans proud of our 90,000 person stadium and absurdly unnecessarily high revenues, and "squeezing under the cap" The two teams with the best records in their conferences the last 5 years were pats and eagles, the two teams furthest under the cap.
i don't think these two threads should've been merged. they're very different topics, one serious, one not-so-much.

re: Snyder - yeah i have zero stadium experience (least at Fedex) so i can't comment on any of that, i don't know how much of an actual hand he has with the parking prices (or cooking the food), but he certainly knows how to keep people coming, he's the most profitable NFL owner ever.

even that should be his own thread, stadium issues versus actual team personnel etc.

there are three threads here: Snyder can't run a stadium, Synder can't run a team, and finally, The Moves We Should Make Next Year.
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that bit in the Post about having the chance to re-sign Clark and his influence on Sean Taylor makes me sick...
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Yeah, I didn't merge the threads, they arent the same topic. One topic is what we should do, the next is what snyder and the rest of the staff will do. People need to stop pretending that snyder has no say in the personnel moves.
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Yeah, I didn't merge the threads, they arent the same topic. One topic is what we should do, the next is what snyder and the rest of the staff will do. People need to stop pretending that snyder has no say in the personnel moves.
Where is your proof that he has a say in personnel??
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As far as the D goes, the problem seems incresingly obvious to me each week. The way GW builds his defense, it's built around a strong front 7. What he desires to do with his secondary is to use them in creative ways, thus he demanded we go out and draft the physical speciman that was Sean Taylor, and sign Adam Arculetta. The Corners are physical run stuffers despite conventional NFL defenses who prefer smaller, quicker, cover corners, thus the drafting of Carlos Rogers. The secondary has been under a lot of fire this year for giving up big plays. But Gregg Williams has and has always had an expectation for his front seven to dominate the line of scrimmage, allowing him to twist his coverage using the personel he has to throughly confuse the opponent. That's at least what happened the last two years. All of a sudden this year, we add a less physical defensive end and lose our physical linebacker, Arrington, and there is a gaping hole in the front seven. You add to that injuries to Griffin and Saleve'a, and Philip Daniels aging right before our eyes every week, and it's no wonder we are getting beat each week. Now rather than being on the attack, the secondary is on the defensive. And all those DBs have major flaws in their game that even the weakest NFL offenses are exploiting. Arculetta and Rogers are getting the brunt of it, but it's not like these flaws were just recently discovered. Williams had to take the good with the bad to get the physical abilities that he covets. This whole defensive problem is a product of GW's all or nothing defensive scheme. They either dominate the game, or they get dominated. And right now, the front 7 is playing average football. And in our scheme, average isn't good enough. Because we have a bunch of physical tools in the secondary who aren't the best cover guys (by design), who are getting picked apart.

The only quick fix I can see is to replace Holdman on the weak side. If Rocky is ready, play him. If he isn't, go somewhere else. Posey or somewhere. Or move Andre Carter back to LB, start Wynn or Evans at DE, and use Carter's skills to rush the passer. Because, right now at end, he's getting beat up in the run game, and is pretty mediocre in the passing game, and its killing the defense. Either way, something needs to be done to the front seven quickly.
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Tripp, for once, i'm in complete agreement with you.
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