Michael Vick vs. Old Habits

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I'm the Falcons I find a way to trade Vick. Not because of this latest incident, but just because I don't see any way this guy will ever be a Super Bowl QB. Trade him and go with Schaub.

He may never be, but he's a tough one to put in perspective. Until this year, When he's been hurt the falcons lose. He's shown he can win, but only win so much.
I still don't believe he's had a coach & recievers that utilize his talent, he's not a good touch passer on short throws. Maybe we should've traded brunell to the falcons this year! MB fit their offense better. Vick throws the deep ball as well as anyone, but he's never had the guys to burn the secondary.
I don't think he'll ever be an all around "great" qb, but he has the talent to win more than lose.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I'm the Falcons I find a way to trade Vick. Not because of this latest incident, but just because I don't see any way this guy will ever be a Super Bowl QB. Trade him and go with Schaub.

The best strategy to use Vick with is to give him a great defense, and let him be the enitre offense. The guy is an electrifing talent who will score some points just by making big plays.

The Falcons have spent their last two first round selections on recievers. This is not going to make the Falcons offense any more potent. Vick simply does not complete enough passes for the talent of his WRs to have an outcome on the game.

Schaub is promising but unproven. Theres no guarentee hes the answer there. Normally, if I was the Falcons, I would take Schaub's fabricated value and trade him for all I can get. I still might. However, the way they have built that offense requires a guy who is a better passer than Vick to run the plays to have sustained offense. If they want to improve on offense, they should go with Schaub, but theres always a chance that they will suffer a significant offensive dropoff w/o their playmaker in there.

[NM Redskin]

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[squrrelco3]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

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[Monkeydad]

He's such a waste of human life. He has so much talent and the opportunity to be something great, and he's constantly throwing it all away. He's like Randy Moss, Ricky Williams (all potheads coincidentally) who have gone from being potential superstars in the sport to losers that no team really wants.

Vick will be there soon. Atlanta should find a way to void his contract, which shouldn't be hard with the things he has done.

Matt Schaub has always done very well when Vick has been hurt and since Ron Mexico can't help the team win, it's time for a change.

Maybe the Raiders would like Vick. He and Moss would be best friends.

[squrrelco3]

Originally Posted by Buster

Matt Schaub has always done very well when Vick has been hurt and since Ron Mexico can't help the team win, it's time for a change.

Actually Ron Mexico can help them win...he's still got enough stock that the Falcons can set up a trade for draft picks.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

He's such a waste of human life. He has so much talent and the opportunity to be something great, and he's constantly throwing it all away. He's like Randy Moss, Ricky Williams (all potheads coincidentally) who have gone from being potential superstars in the sport to losers that no team really wants.

Vick will be there soon. Atlanta should find a way to void his contract, which shouldn't be hard with the things he has done.

Matt Schaub has always done very well when Vick has been hurt and since Ron Mexico can't help the team win, it's time for a change.

Maybe the Raiders would like Vick. He and Moss would be best friends.

Take a chill pill would you? Calling Vick a waste of human life is going way overboard. From all accounts he's not a bad locker room guy like Moss. He seems to get along with this teamates. Unlike Moss. And he has won the majority of the games he has started. The guy made a stupid mistake. He's not robbing or killing anyone. My god.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Take a chill pill would you? Calling Vick a waste of human life is going way overboard. From all accounts he's not a bad locker room guy like Moss. He seems to get along with this teamates. Unlike Moss. And he has won the majority of the games he has started. The guy made a stupid mistake. He's not robbing or killing anyone. My god.

What is all this talk about Moss not being a good guy in the locker room, and not getting along with teammates? Where did you read that? I've never heard that before.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

What is all this talk about Moss not being a good guy in the locker room, and not getting along with teammates? Where did you read that? I've never heard that before.

Just to be clear, they're talking about Randy...not Santana.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Just to be clear, they're talking about Randy...not Santana.

..... oh goody.... !!!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

What is all this talk about Moss not being a good guy in the locker room, and not getting along with teammates? Where did you read that? I've never heard that before.

I'm talking about Randy Moss. He's a complete a hole.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Buster

He's such a waste of human life. He has so much talent and the opportunity to be something great, and he's constantly throwing it all away. He's like Randy Moss, Ricky Williams (all potheads coincidentally) who have gone from being potential superstars in the sport to losers that no team really wants.

Vick will be there soon. Atlanta should find a way to void his contract, which shouldn't be hard with the things he has done.

Matt Schaub has always done very well when Vick has been hurt and since Ron Mexico can't help the team win, it's time for a change.

Maybe the Raiders would like Vick. He and Moss would be best friends.

Who are you to make such a scathing comment about someone that you know nothing about?

It took me two seconds to Google him and find out that he has a foundation for at-risk children and that when he fingered the crowd he matched the fine and donated it to charity.

Can you give me the website of your foundation? Let me guess, instead of earning millions of dollars and donating a substantial amount annually, you give your "resources" to a football blog.

Can someone explain to me why anyone cares about this incident?

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Who are you to make such a scathing comment about someone that you know nothing about?

It took me two seconds to Google him and find out that he has a foundation for at-risk children and that when he fingered the crowd he matched the fine and donated it to charity.

Can you give me the website of your foundation? Let me guess, instead of earning millions of dollars and donating a substantial amount annually, you give your "resources" to a football blog.

Can someone explain to me why anyone cares about this incident?

Good points. I dont think is really such a big issue but, the law of the United States says that we cannot LEGALLY have weed and Vick broke that law. Yes, I think all this publicity is stupid over such a trivial thing.
No, I dont think Vick is bad person because he smokes weed, unless he bo-gards it, in which case, **** him. LOL

Ok, Im a go watch Torresa' vid on JC again cuz its AWESOME!

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

Good points. I dont think is really such a big issue but, the law of the United States says that we cannot LEGALLY have weed and Vick broke that law. Yes, I think all this publicity is stupid over such a trivial thing.
No, I dont think Vick is bad person because he smokes weed, unless he bo-gards it, in which case, **** him. LOL

Ok, Im a go watch Torresa' vid on JC again cuz its AWESOME!

Good point. It is puff puff give not puff puff puff puff puff puff give! I wonder if he has white widow?