Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Locker Room Main Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-07-2007, 03:56 PM   #1
Hog1
Quietly Dominating the East
 
Hog1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 10,675
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

G, I don't know if your right or Schneed. I do know that every year about this time does the entire media world proclaim the "sky is falling" for the Skins. Salary cap HELL, etc. To date, Dan Snyder has proved them................well, you get it.
__________________
Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios
thankyou Joe.......
“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs
Hog1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 04:11 PM   #2
GTripp0012
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 38
Posts: 15,994
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog1 View Post
G, I don't know if your right or Schneed. I do know that every year about this time does the entire media world proclaim the "sky is falling" for the Skins. Salary cap HELL, etc. To date, Dan Snyder has proved them................well, you get it.
The sky isn't really falling, and Scheed's point that we can create a lot of cap room for 2008 is correct. The key is at this point in time, we only have about 25 or so guys rostered for 2008 and beyond, half the amount needed to field a team. We are already within 8 million of the projected salary cap, and will likely be over it after this year's draft and FA season, and I only expect us to add 6-7 players. So the question becomes how much restructuring is necessary to get 20 additional players under the cap. If we make mass cuts, the downside is obvious, but if we make mass restructurings, 2009s cap situation will be twice as difficult as 2008.

If we stop restructuring contracts now, we can stay out of cap hell with little cost. (This means we cut players like Wynn, Fauria, John Hall and maybe Todd Collins) If we continue to push $10 million plus of guarenteed into the next seasons, we will eventually hit a wall, maybe as soon as next season.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 04:47 PM   #3
Beemnseven
Pro Bowl
 
Beemnseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Virginia Beach
Age: 52
Posts: 5,311
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog1 View Post
G, I don't know if your right or Schneed. I do know that every year about this time does the entire media world proclaim the "sky is falling" for the Skins. Salary cap HELL, etc. To date, Dan Snyder has proved them................well, you get it.

With a 21-27 record over the last 3 years, and virtually no draft picks this year to help us along, I guess it all depends on how you describe the "sky falling." If it's not falling, it's pretty close, and the sky isn't necessarily the limit for this club.

What I do know is that this structure has built a team that completely collapses when just one player -- last season it was Shawn Springs -- goes down for not even half the year. When your house of cards is that shaky, and when you've compiled the win-loss record that we have, I don't how you can't say the sky isn't falling.
Beemnseven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 04:17 PM   #4
GTripp0012
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 38
Posts: 15,994
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

If it was up to me, I would stop the buck right here and right now (coming off a 5-11 season), but we can keep these guys together for next year (restructuring), make one more run, and bite the bullet in 2008. If this organization chooses this path, and continues to try to restructure their way out of these problems in 2008 like idiots, there will be no talent on this team come 2009.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 04:33 PM   #5
Hog1
Quietly Dominating the East
 
Hog1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 10,675
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTripp0012 View Post
If it was up to me, I would stop the buck right here and right now (coming off a 5-11 season), but we can keep these guys together for next year (restructuring), make one more run, and bite the bullet in 2008. If this organization chooses this path, and continues to try to restructure their way out of these problems in 2008 like idiots, there will be no talent on this team come 2009.
I have to believe these conceptsare not on them. This is what they do.........like professionally. I find it impossible to imagine that any of this is a surprise to Joe2 and Co., and not accounted for in some manner.
__________________
Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios
thankyou Joe.......
“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs
Hog1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 05:14 PM   #6
724Skinsfan
Playmaker
 
724Skinsfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 3,508
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Going back to the Business of Football and how successful Snyder has been, here's a good website (Forbes) that shows all of the teams and breaks down their value. Pretty interesting. The Raiders by the way rank somewhere like 28.

The Business Of Football - Forbes.com
__________________
"I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn
724Skinsfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 08:29 AM   #7
#56fanatic
The Starter
 
#56fanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Charlotte NC
Age: 51
Posts: 1,801
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Quote:
Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan View Post
Going back to the Business of Football and how successful Snyder has been, here's a good website (Forbes) that shows all of the teams and breaks down their value. Pretty interesting. The Raiders by the way rank somewhere like 28.

The Business Of Football - Forbes.com
I dont think anyone on this site questions Dans ability to make money. I dont think that is what this thread started out to be. Dan is great at making money, putting a positive spin on things. what we are saying is, the running of the football operations needs to improve. Who cares how much money we make if we can't win more than 5 or 6 games a year!!
#56fanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 10:53 AM   #8
724Skinsfan
Playmaker
 
724Skinsfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 3,508
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Quote:
Originally Posted by #56fanatic View Post
I dont think anyone on this site questions Dans ability to make money. I dont think that is what this thread started out to be. Dan is great at making money, putting a positive spin on things. what we are saying is, the running of the football operations needs to improve. Who cares how much money we make if we can't win more than 5 or 6 games a year!!
It was just a simple fact-based response to Colin's comment:

"PATHETIC. BRUTAL. You can't run a business that way!"
__________________
"I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn
724Skinsfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 05:50 PM   #9
70Chip
Playmaker
 
70Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manassas
Age: 55
Posts: 3,048
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

I've listened to that radio show a time or two and his knowledge of football is virtually nill. He spent the entire fall ripping the SEC and then came Florida...whoops.

Memo to Cameron Gray: Remember who you work for. Get rid of this guy and replace him with something else. Anything else. Personally, I'd rather listen to Polka Music.
__________________
This Monkey's Gone to Heaven
70Chip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 05:56 PM   #10
GTripp0012
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 38
Posts: 15,994
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog1 View Post
I have to believe these conceptsare not on them. This is what they do.........like professionally. I find it impossible to imagine that any of this is a surprise to Joe2 and Co., and not accounted for in some manner.
I agree with this assessment. I think someone (probably a lot of people) in the Skins organization likely opposes the restructuring of so many veteran deals each year.

Anyway, the new CBA contract was a blessing in that it bought us about two more years then we would have had under the old CBA. We went out and quickly squandered the first year.

I think Joe Gibbs believe this team is capable of winning now. I think his faith is justified...to an extent. Although Gibbs would never make a move that he believes will harm the future of the franchise, at his age even the most noble men in the world surely would be considering all possible ways to win now.

I know I, as a fan, would gladly trade three years of cap purging and mediocrity for one world championship. But I'm not fickle enough to think that even if we have the best offseason of any team and put togehter the toughest roster in the league, that our chances of going all the way in any given year is better than 5-1. Gibbs has one year to get it done with this roster, and I'm sure he knows this. In fact, I bet most of this year's free agent moves were done under the assumption that Gibbs had two years to make it happen, so might as well compromise the future for the best possible chance to win within the next two years.

Well, the first year of that 2 year window produced a 5-11 result. So either the plan has to be aborted, the buck stopped here (as I previously suggested), and the future saved, or we stay the course, pour all of our remaining resources into 2007, and the legacy of Gibbs2 is defined by one season--2007.

I think Gibbs and company have already made up their minds. If they don't get at least a deep playoff push this next season, then this franchise is in dire straights.

Back to the main point, I'm sure there is significant conflicting views within the organization. I'm sure that the impeding doom is common knowledge, but some people surely think that one more go with this core group is the best chance that this franchise will have to win it all for a long time.

And as much as I hate to say it, this organization may knowledgebly be sacrificing its future...for a good yet potentially futile cause.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 06:04 PM   #11
GTripp0012
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 38
Posts: 15,994
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

One good thing for us--this Colts team that won the Super Bowl this past weekend was, in essence, a flawed roster. The run defense wasn't as much fixed for the playoffs as much as it was patched up by a scheme change. The 2007 Colts should still have a run defense problem.

But what this team did demonstrate is that--with a little luck--a flawed roster can win 4 straight playoff games and be crowned champions. It gives hope to our 2007 team.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 07:08 PM   #12
skinsguy
Pro Bowl
 
skinsguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
Posts: 6,766
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

After seeing the crap that we have drafted (excluding Campbell so far,) the high draft picks such as Desmond Howard, Michael Westbrook, Heath Shuler...just to name a few...why should there be such an emphasis on draft picks? We did advance in the playoffs with a free agency team in '05, there isn't a reason why it couldn't happen again. The biggest thing is to use free agency wisely and sign the guys who have been in the league a few seasons but are still young (like Moss and Portis) and stay away from the aging guys. Either way, some guys are going to make the point of the sky falling no matter what, even if we win the Super Bowl next season.
__________________
"Fire Up That Diesel!"
skinsguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 07:24 PM   #13
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace
Impact Rookie
 
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fayetteville, NC
Age: 41
Posts: 896
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

You play the games you're scheduled...and this past year provided plenty of games to win. 05 was a good year period...end of story.
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2007, 09:41 PM   #14
squrrelco3
Special Teams
 
squrrelco3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Norfolk
Age: 50
Posts: 429
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

First off Colin Cowherd is a Jim Rome wannabe and I'm sick of his act. ESPN brought him in like the second coming after Kornheiser left and he immediately commenced sucking a$$.

Granted he brings up a lot of good points but he still talked trash about our team. It's like someone talking trash about family. You can call your brother a SOB but don't let the guy down the street call your brother a SOB.
__________________
I got nothin'
squrrelco3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2007, 08:44 AM   #15
#56fanatic
The Starter
 
#56fanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Charlotte NC
Age: 51
Posts: 1,801
Re: Colin Cowherd Takes Another Swipe

Quote:
Originally Posted by squrrelco3 View Post
First off Colin Cowherd is a Jim Rome wannabe and I'm sick of his act. ESPN brought him in like the second coming after Kornheiser left and he immediately commenced sucking a$$.

Granted he brings up a lot of good points but he still talked trash about our team. It's like someone talking trash about family. You can call your brother a SOB but don't let the guy down the street call your brother a SOB.

dude, you should turn off the radio! somebody talks about the Redskins, and they automatically suck? seriously, get a hobby. I am a die hard skins fan, but until the Redskins actually win some games, CONSISTANTLY, over a period of more than 1 year, you are going to hear it year in and year out. get use to it.
#56fanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.44046 seconds with 10 queries