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View Poll Results: Your choice as successor to Joe Gibbs?
Gregg Williams 245 78.78%
Al Saunders 6 1.93%
Bill Cowher 42 13.50%
other 18 5.79%
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:39 AM   #1
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If its anyone besides GW all the assistants will be gone. He will want his own guys.
Yes, that is if Williams doesn't bolt before he gets the pink slip. We've already heard his name mentioned with regard to the current coaching vacancies, and if he's not picked for the Redskins' job, he's going to go looking elsewhere.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:54 AM   #2
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Let's take a look from the other side of the coin, who would want the Redskins coaching job. It does come with baggage.

a) You have an owner and VP (Vinnie) that are going to be involved in decision making. Snyder is better now than before but he will not give up full control again to anyone other than Gibbs. Cowher will want full control

b) We are not going to be able to overhaul the roster due to cap limitations. We aren't in cap hell, but we can't go crazy in FA either, so whoever comes here will have to utilize largely the same roster.

b2) Our offensive roster is built for a Coryell/Saunders/Gibbs type offense. Big blockers, built for power rushing, and play-action. Saunders wrinkles to that system are timing oriented and will NOT NOT NOT work well if we get a west-coast style offensive coach in here (Mariucci for example).

b3) Our defensive roster is built for the G.Williams system, and it even more than the offense is extremely scheme oriented. While we have some raw talent on D, I believe our roster would be no better than a 25th ranked D if they were forced to play in a 3-4 style. (Another knock against Cohwer)

c) The team went through an emotional trauma that forced them to really bond as a unit, and a new coach...an outsider... will NOT be accepted by the majority of the players as their emotional leader because he "wasn't there" when they had to deal with the things they dealt with this year.

Due to all the reasons listed above, I have a very difficult time seeing a scenario where we go outside the organization for a new HC. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like a good fit. Besides, Williams is gone if he isn't the next HC here, he'll take another job elsewhere, and again, without his scheme, our D is in trouble. I think the only logical choice to retain a hope of a winning record next year is GW.
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:04 AM   #3
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b) We are not going to be able to overhaul the roster due to cap limitations. We aren't in cap hell, but we can't go crazy in FA either, so whoever comes here will have to utilize largely the same roster.
We are NOT in salary cap hell. A bunch of contracts will be restructured and we will be fine. Mark my words.

I'm honestly getting sick and tired of hearing about how we're in salary cap hell. Yet, we still manage to sign some FA's and stay under the cap. Hasn't this owner already proven everybody wrong by now??
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:10 AM   #4
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We are NOT in salary cap hell. A bunch of contracts will be restructured and we will be fine. Mark my words.

I'm honestly getting sick and tired of hearing about how we're in salary cap hell. Yet, we still manage to sign some FA's and stay under the cap. Hasn't this owner already proven everybody wrong by now??
We're not in salary cap hell, although we definitely we've had some hiccups attributable to cap constraints. This offseason, I think we'll see more of the same. With teams having record cap surpluses, free agents are getting bigger and bigger deals. I do not think we will be able to sign more than 1 or 2 starters and it is unlikely that either of them will be Pro Bowlers like Terrell Suggs or Marcus Trufant. That said, I welcome these cap constraints since I don't think we need to replace more than 1-2 starters (Daniels and Doughty).
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:57 PM   #5
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We are NOT in salary cap hell. A bunch of contracts will be restructured and we will be fine. Mark my words.

I'm honestly getting sick and tired of hearing about how we're in salary cap hell. Yet, we still manage to sign some FA's and stay under the cap. Hasn't this owner already proven everybody wrong by now??
Re-read my post...I said we AREN'T in salary cap hell. Make sure you see with your eyes and don't let your brain jump to conclusions before going off on things that weren't said.

We'll be able to make a couple of moves due to the astute cap management team we have, and we won't be letting people go like crazy, but if you think were going to be able to compete for elite FA's, then you will be disappointed.
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Let's take a look from the other side of the coin, who would want the Redskins coaching job. It does come with baggage.

a) You have an owner and VP (Vinnie) that are going to be involved in decision making. Snyder is better now than before but he will not give up full control again to anyone other than Gibbs. Cowher will want full control

b) We are not going to be able to overhaul the roster due to cap limitations. We aren't in cap hell, but we can't go crazy in FA either, so whoever comes here will have to utilize largely the same roster.

b2) Our offensive roster is built for a Coryell/Saunders/Gibbs type offense. Big blockers, built for power rushing, and play-action. Saunders wrinkles to that system are timing oriented and will NOT NOT NOT work well if we get a west-coast style offensive coach in here (Mariucci for example).

b3) Our defensive roster is built for the G.Williams system, and it even more than the offense is extremely scheme oriented. While we have some raw talent on D, I believe our roster would be no better than a 25th ranked D if they were forced to play in a 3-4 style. (Another knock against Cohwer)

c) The team went through an emotional trauma that forced them to really bond as a unit, and a new coach...an outsider... will NOT be accepted by the majority of the players as their emotional leader because he "wasn't there" when they had to deal with the things they dealt with this year.

Due to all the reasons listed above, I have a very difficult time seeing a scenario where we go outside the organization for a new HC. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like a good fit. Besides, Williams is gone if he isn't the next HC here, he'll take another job elsewhere, and again, without his scheme, our D is in trouble. I think the only logical choice to retain a hope of a winning record next year is GW.
The Redskins head coaching position certainly HAS to be the most appealing of all the coaching vacancies in the league right now.

1. Miami: A train wreck from the top down. Who is the starting QB?
2. Baltimore: Again I ask the QB question. And an offense that needs a complete overhaul and a defense that is getting long in the tooth.
3. Atlanta: Who is the QB? And they had an offense built around Vick, now they have to rebuild the offense again to suit a new coaches philiosphy and WHOEVER comes in as QB.

Then you have Washington. Young EXTREMELY talented QB. Solid players at each skill position. A superlative defensive philosophy and an owner that is not shy about opening the checkbook to get you what you need and want. Snyder is committed to winning and to the fans. He always goes above and beyond to put the best product on the field.

Of all the coaching vacancies, I would say Washington is the most appealing, they are equipped to WIN NOW and that alone is enough to attract any qualified candadite.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:18 AM   #7
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Since it's nothing but speculation and conjecture, I'll throw out a name.. Steve Mariucci.. He's coached in the NFL with some success (playoff teams in SF), has some success in developing QB (was Favre's QB coach during Super Bowl and multiple Pro Bowl years, Garcia was a Pro Bowl QB and multiple times to the playoffs) and is popular amongst his players.. You can't hold Detroit against him, nobody wins in Detroit. Other than continuity, why not Mooch?
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:20 AM   #8
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Since it's nothing but speculation and conjecture, I'll throw out a name.. Steve Mariucci.. He's coached in the NFL with some success (playoff teams in SF), has some success in developing QB (was Favre's QB coach during Super Bowl and multiple Pro Bowl years, Garcia was a Pro Bowl QB and multiple times to the playoffs) and is popular amongst his players.. You can't hold Detroit against him, nobody wins in Detroit. Other than continuity, why not Mooch?
I could live with that.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:35 AM   #9
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Knowing Gregg Williams is a loyalist, much as Coach Joe was, this may take the wind out of the sails of GW. The man who he had built the utmost respect for over 4 years and had shepherded the entire team through the death of Gregg's most talented and loved defensive player has left. However, also knowing GW to be a competitor with a history of head coaching experience, that part of me thinks he will lobby hard to earn the vacancy. No predictions from me about what Williams will decide to do. It could go either way.

I don't think the hiring of Cowher would negatively jolt this team. IMO, he would be a better OVERALL coach than GW. His track record and Super Bowl victory speak for themselves. Let's remember, too, that Pittsburgh was NOT a team that ventured out into the free agent market year after year and greedily pursued big names for big prices. I believe they built a blueprint much like the way the Skins are attempting to do now. Is Campbell the next Roethlisberger? No, that's an asinine thing to say. Campbell can be BETTER than Big Ben. Is Portis the next Bettis? Not even at 75 pounds lighter. But would he be able to help make the Skins' O efficient as Bettis (mixed with Parker) helped make the Steel Boys' O efficient? You bet. The defensive results would be consistently good.

For the record, I voted for GW. But I wouldn't be seething at a new hire a la Cowher.
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Mooch is a good coach -- but I still want Williams.
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I wouldn't hate it if Cowher was the guy... but I would be disappointed from the standpoint that it would mean a new staff and probably some significant changes to the roster.

I'm tired of starting over every few years. At least with Williams it wouldn't be a total house cleaning.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:40 AM   #12
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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;404287]I wouldn't hate it if Cowher was the guy... but I would be disappointed from the standpoint that it would mean a new staff and probably some significant changes to the roster.

I'm tired of starting over every few years. At least with Williams it wouldn't be a total house cleaning.[/QUOTE]

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Old 01-08-2008, 10:31 AM   #13
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We're all assuming that with Grilliams it wouldn't be a complete house cleaning. We don't know that for sure. We don't know what kind of offense he'd want to run. We don't know if he wants to keep the same philosophy on selecting players. We know he'd keep the defense mostly the same but if he's not coaching them 100% of the time we don't know how someone else will call the game.

We also don't know that Saunders will choose to stay. He came to coach with Gibbs because of their history. Remember, he was a head coaching candidate for the Raiders and Rams before he came to us for a boatload of $$$ and to coach with Gibbs.
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Williams.
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I want Jimmy Johnson or Schotty back.
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