May the Schwartz be with you?

Schneed10 · 01-10-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think he will be either (though it's not a terrible choice). I think he will be Assistant Head Coach

To who, GW as HC? Then why the initial interest in Cowher? Why didn't GW get promoted immediately? And why would Schwartz interview for a lateral move? And would the Titans even allow the interview for a lateral move?

MTK · 01-10-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

To who, GW as HC? Then why the initial interest in Cowher? Why didn't GW get promoted immediately? And why would Schwartz interview for a lateral move? And would the Titans even allow the interview for a lateral move?

Who said the Skins were ever seriously interested in Cowher other than pure speculation from the media and fans?

It wouldn't be a lateral move when you take into account the title, Assistant head coach - defense.

cpayne5 · 01-10-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think he will be either (though it's not a terrible choice). I think he will be Assistant Head Coach

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.

skinsfan_nn · 01-10-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think he will be either (though it's not a terrible choice). I think he will be Assistant Head Coach

That wouldn't surprise me at all GW Head Coach. Schwartz an assistant is a good possibility (take over the defense).

firstdown · 01-10-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If it is Schwartz, then "Yay Me!"

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/387819-post59.html

I am freakin' awesome. Every single one of you blasted me for it. But who's blastin' now bitches?! (see how lame it sounds when you say stuff like that?)

Wow, now we can put your name right beside that guy who went on and on about TC. What good company you hold.

12thMan · 01-10-2008, 02:59 PM

It's not so much of who's better out there right now. It's just that I can't think of any good reason why they wouldn't hire Gregg Williams. Every player I've heard speak about the coaching vacancy has publicly endorsed Gregg Williams.

Redskins_P · 01-10-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's not so much of who's better out there right now. It's just that I can't think of any good reason why they wouldn't hire Gregg Williams. Every player I've heard speak about the coaching vacancy has publicly endorsed Gregg Williams.

Do you think Snyder will listen to what his players think? To me it seems like he's not that kind of guy. I guess we'll wait and see.

Hey I want GW just as much as everyone does, but I think Schneed10 made some good points as to why its not going to be him.

Schneed10 · 01-10-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's not so much of who's better out there right now. It's just that I can't think of any good reason why they wouldn't hire Gregg Williams. Every player I've heard speak about the coaching vacancy has publicly endorsed Gregg Williams.

Signs point to Gibbs and Snyder thinking he's a great defensive coordinator, but not a good leader.

Beemnseven · 01-10-2008, 03:06 PM

The issue with this guy, and anyone else who comes in from outside the organization, is will he accept Al Saunders as his OC.

Bram Weinstein had a good point today saying that if it's a first time head coach, that would lend more leeway to Snyder to say that whoever it is won't have a say with the offensive coordinator -- assuming Snyder does want to keep Saunders.

70Chip · 01-10-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The issue with this guy, and anyone else who comes in from outside the organization, is will he accept Al Saunders as his OC.

Bram Weinstein had a good point today saying that if it's a first time head coach, that would lend more leeway to Snyder to say that whoever it is won't have a say with the offensive coordinator -- assuming Snyder does want to keep Saunders.

There is precedent for that type of arrangement. Cooke made Gibbs keep Richie Petitbon and Torgeson and the whole defensive staff as a condition for getting the job in 1981. The problem of course is that the perception is that the defense is better than the offense at this point. Likewise in 1981, it was the offense that had been holding the team back. If you condition Saunders, you're saying "Win, but you have to do it with this slightly disfunctional side of the ball".

I just can't see Williams staying regardless of the new HCs background. Williams role here has been something more than just coordinator but less than HC and he knows that Gibbs allowed that when nobody else will.

BleedBurgundy · 01-10-2008, 03:05 PM

For him to walk, Grilliams would have to have a HC job lined up, right? I don't think anyone's knocking down his door... or do you think he would quit out of spite? Point may be moot however if they hire outside the organization, someone's most likely going to bring in their own people anyway.

BleedBurgundy · 01-10-2008, 03:07 PM

I thought we all agreed there was no clause. The guys on Sirius said unequivocally that it was a myth, not to mention an illegal provision.

stone · 01-10-2008, 03:07 PM

maybe i'm on dope, but I just can't see Gibbs walking away from everything he's busted his arse for 4 years only to have it torn down. It just doesn't make sense to me. There is a replacement for Gibbs already and Gibbs and Snyder knew this already. They are just making us sweat it out. done deal pal!

Schneed10 · 01-10-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stone

maybe i'm on dope, but I just can't see Gibbs walking away from everything he's busted his arse for 4 years only to have it torn down. It just doesn't make sense to me. There is a replacement for Gibbs already and Gibbs and Snyder knew this already. They are just making us sweat it out. done deal pal!

OK, logically speaking, why would they do that?

stone · 01-10-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

OK, logically speaking, why would they do that?

No disrespect to Coach Gibbs here but realistically gibbs was "out of the picture" kinda once Al Saunders came in.

Coach gibbs was the middle man for the offense with the power of veto over saunders but for the most part i believe Gibbs took somewhat of a back seat to the play calling once Saunders came in.... I think this is obvious with the 5-11 season in 2006 (saunders 1st year) So in reality, the point i'm trying to make here is: Saunders offense has proven to be effective I believe this is evident in the last 4 regular season games. Cambell went down (Gibbs "boy") and Collins came in (Saunders "boy") and tore it up. Gregg's "D" has also proven itself to be effective so I think that Gibbs decided that it's time to take his bottle of gule home with him because he's done his job and "glued" this team together. Gibbs is a brilliant man and I really don't think we'll see the fruits of his labor until next year and beyond.

I know, I have this posted in another thread....

01-10-2008, 02:59 PM	#6
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? It's not so much of who's better out there right now. It's just that I can't think of any good reason why they wouldn't hire Gregg Williams. Every player I've heard speak about the coaching vacancy has publicly endorsed Gregg Williams.

01-10-2008, 03:06 PM	#9
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 52 Posts: 5,311	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? The issue with this guy, and anyone else who comes in from outside the organization, is will he accept Al Saunders as his OC. Bram Weinstein had a good point today saying that if it's a first time head coach, that would lend more leeway to Snyder to say that whoever it is won't have a say with the offensive coordinator -- assuming Snyder does want to keep Saunders.

01-10-2008, 03:05 PM	#11
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? For him to walk, Grilliams would have to have a HC job lined up, right? I don't think anyone's knocking down his door... or do you think he would quit out of spite? Point may be moot however if they hire outside the organization, someone's most likely going to bring in their own people anyway. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

01-10-2008, 03:07 PM	#12
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? I thought we all agreed there was no clause. The guys on Sirius said unequivocally that it was a myth, not to mention an illegal provision. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

01-10-2008, 03:07 PM	#13
stone Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pottsville, PA Age: 50 Posts: 32	Re: May the Schwartz be with you? maybe i'm on dope, but I just can't see Gibbs walking away from everything he's busted his arse for 4 years only to have it torn down. It just doesn't make sense to me. There is a replacement for Gibbs already and Gibbs and Snyder knew this already. They are just making us sweat it out. done deal pal! __________________ "On the sidelines you could kind of feel everybody just fighting their guts out."

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