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Old 01-14-2008, 01:43 AM   #1
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Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?

I assume his career playoff ability to be just a hair below his career regular season ability: pretty good.
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Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?

For the record:

Tom Brady games under 60 QB rating in the playoffs: 1

Tom Brady games over 135 QB rating in the playoffs: 1

Before yesterday: 0
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:56 AM   #3
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Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?

I can't remember which of Parcell's QB commandments it was, but one was:

We don't need celibrities, we need generals.

The Head Cheerleader and the Celebrity Quarterback came acropper tonight. Jerry Jones looking like Pickett at Gettysburgh is priceless. Circumstances seemed to have cleared a path through the wilderness for Old Man Farve.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:15 AM   #4
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If romo had come out and blew this game, I'd say we'd have a case to call him a choker, but that's not what happened. Not even close. He played well. Definitely well enough to win. It's not his job to catch passes or pass block. Or call the plays. How Garrett got away from running the ball in the second half, I'll never know. I'm supremely happy they lost, but I don't lay this on Romo. THe int was with 10 seconds left when he had to force it. At that point, he was counting on a receiver to make a play and, just as they had all day, they failed.
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If romo had come out and blew this game, I'd say we'd have a case to call him a choker, but that's not what happened. Not even close. He played well. Definitely well enough to win. It's not his job to catch passes or pass block. Or call the plays. How Garrett got away from running the ball in the second half, I'll never know. I'm supremely happy they lost, but I don't lay this on Romo. THe int was with 10 seconds left when he had to force it. At that point, he was counting on a receiver to make a play and, just as they had all day, they failed.
He had a couple dropped passes, but still, 50% completion percentage? He didn't play that well at all. Most of those completions were for short gains too.
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:17 AM   #6
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Regarding Romo and Simpson:

If his girlfriend was any anonymous woman, no one would have even cared that he was in Cabo. If anyone did find out they probably would've been happy because he took Witten and some other teammate along with him after being told by coach to get away from the game for a week. This b.s. is all smoke, no fire.
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Regarding Romo and Simpson:

If his girlfriend was any anonymous woman, no one would have even cared that he was in Cabo. If anyone did find out they probably would've been happy because he took Witten and some other teammate along with him after being told by coach to get away from the game for a week. This b.s. is all smoke, no fire.
I agree with most of what you said,I dont think romo played well,but I dont think he choked,he was on his back most of the 2nd half.
Your probably right that no one would have cared if his girlfriend was anonymous,but she wasnt,he knew that,he knew about the critisism he got from the eagles game,he should have known better
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:46 AM   #8
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yeah, but how many of those incompletions were drops or throwing off his back foot because he had a Giant's Dlineman in his face. He was under duress the entire 2nd half after the giants wore down his o line. Don't get me wrong, he's still a douche but I don't think he choked.
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:50 AM   #9
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Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?

I'm starting to agree with GTripp on this one. This thread is...(Schneed?)
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:09 AM   #10
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Yeah but this isn't something you evaluate with numbers. Romo's career is so young, and he's played only two playoff games. So looking at stats obviously isn't going to tell you much. What we do know, though, is that Tony Romo has started off the last two seasons absolutely red hot, but then played like asscrack coming down the stretch. He's not a choke artist because of his playoff performances, he's a choke artist because:

1) His December performances have been awful.

2) Like Matty said, he was not acting one bit like a leader in the 4th quarter yesterday. He was bitching at his guys. He was panicking. He was playing frantically. There was no poise whatsoever, no confident calm to his demeanor. You can just tell by looking at the guy - he's a decent QB with decent talent - but he has no intangibles. He's got an unorthodox delivery and a gunslinger's mentality just like Brett Favre, but none of Favre's take-charge leadership. That doesn't reflect in the numbers, you can only see that by watching the game and paying attention to human behavior.

So far in his young career, he's definitely a choke artist. He's got plenty of time to turn that around, but I honestly don't like his chances in the NEXT heat of the moment - he's just not a leader.
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:13 AM   #11
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Yeah but this isn't something you evaluate with numbers. Romo's career is so young, and he's played only two playoff games. So looking at stats obviously isn't going to tell you much. What we do know, though, is that Tony Romo has started off the last two seasons absolutely red hot, but then played like asscrack coming down the stretch. He's not a choke artist because of his playoff performances, he's a choke artist because:

1) His December performances have been awful.

2) Like Matty said, he was not acting one bit like a leader in the 4th quarter yesterday. He was bitching at his guys. He was panicking. He was playing frantically. There was no poise whatsoever, no confident calm to his demeanor. You can just tell by looking at the guy - he's a decent QB with decent talent - but he has no intangibles. He's got an unorthodox delivery and a gunslinger's mentality just like Brett Favre, but none of Favre's take-charge leadership. That doesn't reflect in the numbers, you can only see that by watching the game and paying attention to human behavior.

So far in his young career, he's definitely a choke artist. He's got plenty of time to turn that around, but I honestly don't like his chances in the NEXT heat of the moment - he's just not a leader.
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:19 AM   #12
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Yeah but this isn't something you evaluate with numbers. Romo's career is so young, and he's played only two playoff games. So looking at stats obviously isn't going to tell you much. What we do know, though, is that Tony Romo has started off the last two seasons absolutely red hot, but then played like asscrack coming down the stretch. He's not a choke artist because of his playoff performances, he's a choke artist because:

1) His December performances have been awful.

2) Like Matty said, he was not acting one bit like a leader in the 4th quarter yesterday. He was bitching at his guys. He was panicking. He was playing frantically. There was no poise whatsoever, no confident calm to his demeanor. You can just tell by looking at the guy - he's a decent QB with decent talent - but he has no intangibles. He's got an unorthodox delivery and a gunslinger's mentality just like Brett Favre, but none of Favre's take-charge leadership. That doesn't reflect in the numbers, you can only see that by watching the game and paying attention to human behavior.

So far in his young career, he's definitely a choke artist. He's got plenty of time to turn that around, but I honestly don't like his chances in the NEXT heat of the moment - he's just not a leader.
C'mon Schneed. The O-line was getting manhandled. The center kept screwing up. You can't blame him for getting frustrated with the O-line. I've seen Farve get on his guys for running the wrong routes. But it's funny when Farve does it it's leadership. Romo could have played better. No doubt about it. But it didn't seem like he was getting much help.

Can anyone around here actually give the NYG some credit?? 9 straight road wins in the NFL is just ridiculous.
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C'mon Schneed. The O-line was getting manhandled. The center kept screwing up. You can't blame him for getting frustrated with the O-line. I've seen Farve get on his guys for running the wrong routes. But it's funny when Farve does it it's leadership. Romo could have played better. No doubt about it. But it didn't seem like he was getting much help.

Can anyone around here actually give the NYG some credit?? 9 straight road wins in the NFL is just ridiculous.
Just like Schneed said, have you watched him this whole December? It wasn't just the Giants game. It was every game this December. He just hasn't played well.

When TO is out you see exactly how vital he is to making Tony look a LOT better than he is.
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Just like Schneed said, have you watched him this whole December? It wasn't just the Giants game. It was every game this December. He just hasn't played well.

When TO is out you see exactly how vital he is to making Tony look a LOT better than he is.
TO is one of the best WR's of all time. If he misses any amount of time of course it's going to hurt the offense and the QB. If Randy Moss misses time in NE no way do they score as many points w/out him.
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TO is one of the best WR's of all time. If he misses any amount of time of course it's going to hurt the offense and the QB. If Randy Moss misses time in NE no way do they score as many points w/out him.
Right. But Brady can work with even crappy receivers...
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