The Official draft Marcus Monk thread.

[skinsfan69]

If he's there in round 5-7 then I'd be OK with it. Ark. doesn't even run a college level passing game. It's probably going to take him a while to learn the pro passing game. But he's a big tall guy who did have 11td's in 06.

[That Guy]

special teamer, possible depth, project at best. again, good value very very late.

[BleedBurgundy]

I don't know, neither of the highlights in this thread were all that impressive. It looked like a big tall guy ran straight down the field and either the corner fell down or was inept and the ball bounced right to him. Not sure how that's going to work in the pros... I agree that he would definitely be a project, only worth it probably in 6th or 7th round...

[SkinsFanSince91]

The only position that bench doesnt mean squat at is Punter, Kicker, and QB.

But even as a QB, bench press tells them how strong one can stand in the pocket and not get draged down by tacklers like Drew Bledsoe, Brad Johnson, etc..

Brady Quinn did 24 reps last year

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

The only position that bench doesnt mean squat at is Punter, Kicker, and QB.

But even as a QB, bench press tells them how strong one can stand in the pocket and not get draged down by tacklers like Drew Bledsoe, Brad Johnson, etc..

Brady Quinn did 24 reps last year

So do you need to be a strong bench press guy to play RB and safety? Cause Sean Taylor (RIP) never ever lifted weights. He prefered to do more cardio and endurance training. Yet he had no problem getting guys on the ground. Portis isn't a big weight room guy either. I saw Portis one time down at the Georgetown Waterfront a few years ago. He doesn't have a big upper body. I bet he can't lift 225 10 times. But he was wearing shorts and he had some serious tree trunk thighs. I couldn't believe how big his legs were. So to me, when it comes to being a good football player, bench pressing is just waaaaay over rated.

Also, standing strong in the pocket has more to do with your legs and balance, rather than upper body strength.

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So do you need to be a strong bench press guy to play RB and safety? Cause Sean Taylor (RIP) never ever lifted weights. He prefered to do more cardio and endurance training. Yet he had no problem getting guys on the ground. Portis isn't a big weight room guy either. I saw Portis one time down at the Georgetown Waterfront a few years ago. He doesn't have a big upper body. I bet he can't lift 225 10 times. But he was wearing shorts and he had some serious tree trunk thighs. I couldn't believe how big his legs were. So to me, when it comes to being a good football player, bench pressing is just waaaaay over rated.

Also, standing strong in the pocket has more to do with your legs and balance, rather than upper body strength.

Good point Sean Tayor, (RIP) lifted 225 11 times at the Miami pro day and he was the best ever... Compared to the safeties at the combine this year he would be near the bottom. I think the combine has it's posities and negatives. Teams get more out to the meet and greet part of it then anything else. With all the running players do at the combine they'll never do squats

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by DGreene28

Good point Sean Tayor, (RIP) lifted 225 11 times at the Miami pro day and he was the best ever... Compared to the safeties at the combine this year he would be near the bottom. I think the combine has it's posities and negatives. Teams get more out to the meet and greet part of it then anything else. With all the running players do at the combine they'll never do squats

EXCELLENT point, and no one questioned his toughness. He was one of the hardest hitting safties I have ever seen.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by jsarno

EXCELLENT point, and no one questioned his toughness. He was one of the hardest hitting safties I have ever seen.

Not tryin to make this a Taylor thread, but this description of Sean was written by one of the editors of Pro Football Weekly a few weeks before the '04 draft. I'll miss this dude:

PFW associate editor Ken Bikoff
Miami (Fla.) S Sean Taylor
Guys like Eli Manning and Larry Fitzgerald may get all the attention in the days leading up to the draft, but it is Taylor who really created the buzz at the Combine and will become the newest superstar in the NFL. Taylor’s buzz was different from the kind of murmur that accompanied RB Maurice Clarett. The talk about Taylor was about just how relentless he is. His own teammates at Miami said they had to be sure where he was on the field at all times just so they wouldn’t get run over, and Taylor was already being compared to Ronnie Lott by some experts. That’s about the highest praise a safety can get coming out of college, and Taylor’s mix of intensity and speed will make him the next great safety in the NFL.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So do you need to be a strong bench press guy to play RB and safety? Cause Sean Taylor (RIP) never ever lifted weights. He prefered to do more cardio and endurance training. Yet he had no problem getting guys on the ground. Portis isn't a big weight room guy either. I saw Portis one time down at the Georgetown Waterfront a few years ago. He doesn't have a big upper body. I bet he can't lift 225 10 times. But he was wearing shorts and he had some serious tree trunk thighs. I couldn't believe how big his legs were. So to me, when it comes to being a good football player, bench pressing is just waaaaay over rated.

Also, standing strong in the pocket has more to do with your legs and balance, rather than upper body strength.

LT is kind of like that. Diesel strong legs but not a particularly impressive upper body.

[That Guy]

dexter jackson is probably the best value WR/KR in the draft. i'd definitely be up on him in the 5th, but he might go at the end of the 3rd... maybe our comp pick...