What's our greatest need now?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Hmm, Michael Strahan comes to mind as a large defensive end that fell to the second round...

If we're going to miss, I wouldn't mind missing on a 6'7" 290 lb DE. I hate the combine, all these numbers are an attempt to quantify something that can't be quantified. Those combine drills are just that, drills, who cares that he sucks at the shuttle cone, or doesn't run a 4.5 40 yd dash, or only does 15 reps on the bench press. At 6'7" he's going to knock down passes, at 290 he can be effective against the run, and obviously he played well enough during the season to merit 1st round attention. And long term, we've got a Pro Bowl at TE already, would it have hurt to draft Campbell?

Hmm, I don't know Strahan's exact combine numbers, but I would bet a dime to a dollar that his bench press wasn't the WORST of all D-Lineman at the combine. I'm also pretty sure he ran better than a 5.0.

With Campbell's size and great sophomore season he was expected to be a top 5 pick in the NFL at some point. His junior season was below expectations and his work ethic is questionable. If your are a D-I DE at the U and you can only bench 8 reps at 225 (pre-combine Jan. 2008), something is wrong. You're either weak or lazy. I don't want to miss on a pick where there are serious warning signs for a bust. Campbell's D-Line coach from UofM is now on staff with the Skins. Campbell was available at a reasonable point in the draft and the Skins didn't take him, to me that speaks volumes.

The combine is not just "drills". It measures raw physical ability and that raw physical ability is extremely important in the NFL. Every NFL team seems to think it's pretty important, otherwise they wouldn't bother to attend.

At 6' 7", 290 Campbell doesn't have a low center of gravity, he's weak, with a questionable work ethic. At strong-side DE he would be getting BLOWN-UP at the point of attack. After that happened a couple of times how willing is he going to be to get back in there and "step it up", not very is my guess. I'd take Phillip Daniels for the next 4-5 years over Campbell in a heartbeat.

Having two TEs that are receiving threats is very important and creates match-up issues for the opposing D.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I'd take Phillip Daniels for the next 4-5 years over Campbell in a heartbeat.

Dude, I agree with what you say abour Calais Campbell but if we can keep Daniels for the 4-5 years (at a reasonable price) as a legitimate starter, I swear I will cut my bollocks off.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Hmm, I don't know Strahan's exact combine numbers, but I would bet a dime to a dollar that his bench press wasn't the WORST of all D-Lineman at the combine. I'm also pretty sure he ran better than a 5.0.

With Campbell's size and great sophomore season he was expected to be a top 5 pick in the NFL at some point. His junior season was below expectations and his work ethic is questionable. If your are a D-I DE at the U and you can only bench 8 reps at 225 (pre-combine Jan. 2008), something is wrong. You're either weak or lazy. I don't want to miss on a pick where there are serious warning signs for a bust. Campbell's D-Line coach from UofM is now on staff with the Skins. Campbell was available at a reasonable point in the draft and the Skins didn't take him, to me that speaks volumes.

The combine is not just "drills". It measures raw physical ability and that raw physical ability is extremely important in the NFL. Every NFL team seems to think it's pretty important, otherwise they wouldn't bother to attend.

At 6' 7", 290 Campbell doesn't have a low center of gravity, he's weak, with a questionable work ethic. At strong-side DE he would be getting BLOWN-UP at the point of attack. After that happened a couple of times how willing is he going to be to get back in there and "step it up", not very is my guess. I'd take Phillip Daniels for the next 4-5 years over Campbell in a heartbeat.

Having two TEs that are receiving threats is very important and creates match-up issues for the opposing D.

Sorry for wanting us to address our d-line, somehow I got the crazy notion that a starting defensive end should get more than two sacks on the season. Based on that obviously flawed logic, I thought it would make sense to draft a replacement for the power lifter as opposed to someone who may catch 25 passes this year.

The combine is an attempt to quantify something that can't be explained. If it could be explained, why did the best quarterback in the NFL go in the 6th round? In the end, how many times someone can benchpress 185 lbs tells me how many times they can benchpress 185 lbs, nothing more and nothing less. If those measurables actually meant something then Trung Canidate would have run for 1500 yds and 15 scores for us instead of just becoming Matt Bowen's crash test dummy.

I like PDiddy, I really do, and I like that I'm the only one who calls Philip Daniels P Diddy. But I have this crazy dream, that one day we'll actually have a defensive end that is a force.

Now again, I love that we got weapons for Campbell. But at some point we are going to have to start drafting defensive ends before the 6th round, something we haven't done since 1997. Ten years and not one d-end has been "worthy" of being picked by us before round 6?

[freddyg12]

DE,DT/OLB & CB in that order.

Until proven otherwise, E. James is basically like an expensive undrafted fa or 7th round pick (if he makes the team). Daniels is a steady & solid DE, but at his age lacks the speed to get sacks & is injury prone. I would love to see Wilson, Buzbee & Jackson step up big time, but we can't expect any one of those guys to become starting material.

DT; we need at least one more young body to provide depth & build for the future.
OLB; depth is a major concern as MW & RM have both had their health issues.
CB: our best 3 cb's are either injury prone, old or coming off an injury.

[SouperMeister]

DE. Vinny didn't address the pass rush in the draft, and I'm not sold on Erasmus James given his frequent injuries. God forbid that Andre Carter gets hurt.

[KokoMike]

Scoring Touchdowns is our greatest need. Last year, our offense scored 33 TD's in 16 games. Regarding Redskin QB's, I've been a season ticket holder for 30 years, and I'll have to say that none have been better than Sonny. I think our defense will do just fine. We need to score more than 20.9 points a game. It's OK to give Campbell the chance to be the guy, but if he plays like he doesn't want to lose the game, forget it. I want to win...and dominate.

[skinsnut]

All this discussion about the draft.....geeze.

Bottom line...our offense has been weak for years and our defense has been solid....if we needed to go "overboard" on the draft....it would be offense.

I truly believe (unfortunately), 1 of the WR we drafted will be a bust...having 2 is statistically wise...I love the trade down...
I do agree almost any position was a greater need that a TE...but heck...we kinda got that for free for trading down...and ya never know...if the kid is the top TE in the draft and scores us more points, we wont need to improve an already good defense.

I still believe our top need now is an OLB....even though I had a dream last night that Rocky was kicking butt on the field.

[redskinsfanatic]

Team unity at the level it was at during the win to make the playoffs run at the end of last season.