Updated Title: Will Portis Shine Again in a West Coast Offense?

[GTripp0012]

Saunders raved about a lot of players who:

1) Weren't very good.

2) For whatever other reason, couldn't get on the field.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Saunders raved about a lot of players who:

1) Weren't very good.

2) For whatever other reason, couldn't get on the field.

True, but when Portis got hurt in '06, Betts proved he is a damn good back, we gave him a nice extension, and follow it up by giving him less than 6 carries a game on average in 2007. Doesn't make much sense to me.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

True, but when Portis got hurt in '06, Betts proved he is a damn good back, we gave him a nice extension, and follow it up by giving him less than 6 carries a game on average in 2007. Doesn't make much sense to me.

No, I'm with you on this one. Could have certainly saved the money on him if we weren't going to lose him.

There's absolutely no reason to think Rock couldn't carry the ball 5 times a game. Then again, I'm thinking Betts is only here as an insurance policy for Portis, rather than a legitimate 2nd RB.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I think this season we will give Betts more carries this year like around 100-125 and Portis will have 250-275

[mlmpetert]

For Portis, It's 'Big Man Football'

It has been suggested that Portis could approach--or even surpass--the 2,000-yard rushing mark in 2008. Only five players have accomplished that feat in NFL history.

"It's a great goal," Portis said. "A lot of people have put it out there and they think I can accomplish it. For me, it's whatever it's going to take for us to win. If for us to win, it's going to take me running for 2,000 yards, then I look forward to that. If they're going to put it on my back, I'm all for it."

He added: "I go out and I play big man football. That's what I want to do. I want to run wild. I think with the new coaching staff--as much as I love Coach Gibbs--this could be my opportunity to run wild."

Probably one of the better articals on redskins.com ive read. Since when has there been talk about him running for 2k this year?

[Cowell]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

For Portis, It's 'Big Man Football'

It has been suggested that Portis could approach--or even surpass--the 2,000-yard rushing mark in 2008. Only five players have accomplished that feat in NFL history.

"It's a great goal," Portis said. "A lot of people have put it out there and they think I can accomplish it. For me, it's whatever it's going to take for us to win. If for us to win, it's going to take me running for 2,000 yards, then I look forward to that. If they're going to put it on my back, I'm all for it."

He added: "I go out and I play big man football. That's what I want to do. I want to run wild. I think with the new coaching staff--as much as I love Coach Gibbs--this could be my opportunity to run wild."

Probably one of the better articals on redskins.com ive read. Since when has there been talk about him running for 2k this year?

As much as I would love to see him reach the 2k mark, I don't see it realistically happening. Our o-line still doesen't carry much depth and it seems every year someone is going down, I just can't count on a perfectly healthy o-line. Another thing is, for Portis to reach 2k the passing game is going to have to become a legit threat at all times, in all situations. Something we are going to have to wait and see about.

[GTripp0012]

Also, if the coach is competent, the only way he allows a player to sniff 2,000 yards is if the player is averaging 6.0 yards an attempt or better.

Even when he was in Denver, Portis was only a 5.5 YPC guy. I'm happy with him being a 1,400-1,500 guy.

[smoot27]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Also, if the coach is competent, the only way he allows a player to sniff 2,000 yards is if the player is averaging 6.0 yards an attempt or better.

Even when he was in Denver, Portis was only a 5.5 YPC guy. I'm happy with him being a 1,400-1,500 guy.

True true, Portis is a 1400-1500 a year kinda back when at hes best...............but funny thing is at his best could be way more.

I think a Broncos Portis is just or maybe as close as you can get to a LT back that not even Adrian Peterson can say anything about that.

[irish]

Originally Posted by smoot27

True true, Portis is a 1400-1500 a year kinda back when at hes best...............but funny thing is at his best could be way more.

I think a Broncos Portis is just or maybe as close as you can get to a LT back that not even Adrian Peterson can say anything about that.

Thats what I am trying to say. CP is doing a good job but when I watch him I think he could be so much better if he stayed in the game more.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by irish

Thats what I am trying to say. CP is doing a good job but when I watch him I think he could be so much better if he stayed in the game more.

Here's some statistical analysis (I challenge you to find these to cut & paste):

Portis was directly involved in 35% of the Redskins total offensive plays, this means he either ran or made a catch. He was also responsible for 77% of the total runs made by Redskins' RBs. Below are the same stats for other "workhorse" type backs:

LT = 38%, 81%
Westbrook = 35%, 81%
Edge = 34%, 88%
Parker = 34%, 75%
Addai (since you mentioned him) = 29%, 63%

Portis' numbers are similar to these guys, not to mention he led the league in carries. Would you say LT, Westbrook, Edge or Parker comes out to "suck wind"? How much more of a workload would you put on Portis? Every play and carry takes a toll, what happens when Portis is worked to death, go to Betts, Rock? Because you saw Portis come out of a game or two for a brief rest, don't over-generalize into the "sucking wind" comments.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Here's some statistical analysis (I challenge you to find these to cut & paste):

Portis was directly involved in 35% of the Redskins total offensive plays, this means he either ran or made a catch. He was also responsible for 77% of the total runs made by Redskins' RBs. Below are the same stats for other "workhorse" type backs:

LT = 38%, 81%
Westbrook = 35%, 81%
Edge = 34%, 88%
Parker = 34%, 75%
Addai (since you mentioned him) = 29%, 63%

Portis' numbers are similar to these guys, not to mention he led the league in carries. Would you say LT, Westbrook, Edge or Parker comes out to "suck wind"? How much more of a workload would you put on Portis? Every play and carry takes a toll, what happens when Portis is worked to death, go to Betts, Rock? Because you saw Portis come out of a game or two for a brief rest, don't over-generalize into the "sucking wind" comments.

Give it up, he's not going to have an answer for you, at least not one that offers any sort of meaningful thought.

He saw him sucking wind, end of discussion.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Here's some statistical analysis (I challenge you to find these to cut & paste):

Portis was directly involved in 35% of the Redskins total offensive plays, this means he either ran or made a catch. He was also responsible for 77% of the total runs made by Redskins' RBs. Below are the same stats for other "workhorse" type backs:

LT = 38%, 81%
Westbrook = 35%, 81%
Edge = 34%, 88%
Parker = 34%, 75%
Addai (since you mentioned him) = 29%, 63%

Portis' numbers are similar to these guys, not to mention he led the league in carries. Would you say LT, Westbrook, Edge or Parker comes out to "suck wind"? How much more of a workload would you put on Portis? Every play and carry takes a toll, what happens when Portis is worked to death, go to Betts, Rock? Because you saw Portis come out of a game or two for a brief rest, don't over-generalize into the "sucking wind" comments.

Matty, FYI, this is analysis. Using numbers to draw a conclusion. Good post Sammy.

Its not a game or 2, its every game. These numbers lead me to believe the Skins really get the most out of CP. Like I said, he's still a productive back but like you said, he's being worked to death which leads me to believe he's an old 26. It will be interesting to see how Zorn works him and how he handles not being able to come out whan he wants.

[redskinsfanatic]

as long as the hogs stay healthy,portis's potential has no limit.

[over the mountain]

werent alot of us on warpath wondering if portis' decision to take it easy during pre-season last year was the reason he was not in "game shape" for the first couple of weeks? (sucking wind as some might call it)

and many made arguments that LT does it and it doesnt effect him and how portis was right that a runningback needs less reps in pre-season . . .

dont know where this fits into the whole discussion going on here, but portis was definetly out of shape beginning of the season and gibbs said we would ease him back in slowly bringing his reps up each game (then goes on to rush the hell out of him right out of the gate!)

portis is the best player we got outside of randy thomas

go skins! (sorry about this jumpy post, theres a freakin tornado outside)

[MTK]

Let's remember that Portis had a knee issue during the preseason.

And second, Gibbs did ease him in to things. He didn't have 20 carries in a game until week 6. In fact, through the first 7 games he had 115 carries, or an average of 16.4 per game. In the last 9 games his carries really took off and he averaged 23 per game down the stretch.