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Old 06-07-2008, 11:14 PM   #1
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It'll be Obama because it's very unlikely the party in power will hold the White House with a down economy, an unpopular war, and after holding the office for the last eight years. Obama has a savvy enough campaign staff to not mess up too bad, IMO. It's a very tough road for McCain, given the usual political trends.
Many thought the same thing in 2004. I don't know what the Democratic Party will do though if they don't win this election though. I mean it's there for the taking
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:15 AM   #2
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I'm definately not in the Obama=anti-christ crowd. If nothing else, the guy is a fascinating candidate.

However, we've seen this episode before. We've seen politicians who are smooth develop cult followings with little or no substance behind the following. And rarely, if ever, have the results been positive.

I don't want to hold it against Obama that he can attract the young voters to his cause by preaching a message that they feel gives them hope. Hope is good. If George Bush inspired hope in the same way Obama can, we would view his presidency very differently despite the facts and situations being identical. Totally on board with hope.

Something is really just not right about this. Maybe it's just because I associate daily with an incredibly young demographic of people. But I'm very nervous about what crazy ideas Obama could propose and have millions defend him in doing so without any sort of reason.

He's no anti-christ, but the more I hear the pro-Obama arguments, the more I realize that if he gets elected, he will never be accountable for any decision he makes. And that's scary.

I'm just free flow writing here, so maybe I'm working myself up into a frenzy over nothing. But I hear phrases like "win the war for national healthcare" followed by crazy applause, and I realize just how much power this man has. I'm probably casting my vote for McCain based on policy alone, but if Obama wins he will be the strongest U.S. president since Reagan, and FDR before him. I just hope that if he wins, he's ready to handle the job.
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Old 06-08-2008, 02:03 AM   #3
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I'm definately not in the Obama=anti-christ crowd. If nothing else, the guy is a fascinating candidate.

However, we've seen this episode before. We've seen politicians who are smooth develop cult followings with little or no substance behind the following. And rarely, if ever, have the results been positive.

I don't want to hold it against Obama that he can attract the young voters to his cause by preaching a message that they feel gives them hope. Hope is good. If George Bush inspired hope in the same way Obama can, we would view his presidency very differently despite the facts and situations being identical. Totally on board with hope.

Something is really just not right about this. Maybe it's just because I associate daily with an incredibly young demographic of people. But I'm very nervous about what crazy ideas Obama could propose and have millions defend him in doing so without any sort of reason.

He's no anti-christ, but the more I hear the pro-Obama arguments, the more I realize that if he gets elected, he will never be accountable for any decision he makes. And that's scary.

I'm just free flow writing here, so maybe I'm working myself up into a frenzy over nothing. But I hear phrases like "win the war for national healthcare" followed by crazy applause, and I realize just how much power this man has. I'm probably casting my vote for McCain based on policy alone, but if Obama wins he will be the strongest U.S. president since Reagan, and FDR before him. I just hope that if he wins, he's ready to handle the job.
I'm going to digress and say that that quote reminds me of the episode of Family Guy where Lois was running for mayor and all she had to say was, "9/11" and the audience went nuts. Awesome episode.

Back to your regularly scheduled political debate.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:02 AM   #4
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Re: Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination

Decent piece by NPR on the lobbyist story

Obama Bans DNC from Taking Lobbyists' Money : NPR

But I mean McCain-Feingold was kind of a big change wasn't it?
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:05 PM   #5
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Sorry but Little W will always be the king of the retarded one liners.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:01 PM   #6
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"There is this saying in Texas and also in Tennessee (retard look)..........I know its in Texas, but it might also be in Tenessee. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice (retard look again).................You're not going to fool me a third time." - George Bush at a Campaign rally in Tenessee.

You know they got these little calendars out there full of "Bushism's". One Bushism for each day. You can try all you want to, but there is only one person that can sell those and it ain't Obama.
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Have enough courage, and honesty to assess both of the current candidates with the zeal that W seems to attract
........it may be important
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:14 PM   #8
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Have enough courage, and honesty to assess both of the current candidates with the zeal that W seems to attract
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Well said
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"Africa is a great nation with many diseases." - George Bush

I'd like to know whats so off about this statement?
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:50 PM   #10
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"Africa is a great nation with many diseases." - George Bush

I'd like to know whats so off about this statement?
Because it's a continent, not one nation.
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