OK... Let the Haynesworth Petition Begin!

[horse]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Is it a short memory or a inability to learn from our past mistakes. NO WAY!!!!!!! Remember Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkinson. Dion Sanders or any of the other superstars that wasted our time. I don't care how good a player he is. Once he puts on that burgandy helmet he will morf into junk. Springs? Alexander? Draft!!!!!!

Those guys were all done, And Springs has been very good when healthy. This is a guy you don't pass on if you get the chance.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by horse

Those guys were all done, And Springs has been very good when healthy. This is a guy you don't pass on if you get the chance.

For those of you unfamiliar with Turdsworth, let me recount some of his wonderful deeds:

In college, at the University of Tennessee, Turdsworth fought with a teammate. It doesn't end there. He left practice, got a long pole, and returned to practice looking for his "teammate." I don't think he was looking to resolve his differences with his teammate in a dignified manner by jousting.

During Titans training camp, Turdsworth got into a tussle with "teammate" Justin Hartwig, kicked Hartwig in the chest, and had to be restrained by teammates.

During the now infamous Titans-Cowboys game, Turdsworth stomped on Cowboys' center Andre Gurode's face. Gurode needed 30 stitches and Haynesworth narrowly missed Gurode's eye. According to some, Turdsworth actually removed Gurode's helmet and then stomped on Gurode's face. To top it off, when Turdsworth was led off the field, he was yelling at his coach Jeff Fischer for God knows what.

To top it off, Turdsworth has a reputation of being an immensely talented underachiever who didn't produce at a very high level until his contract was about up. His stats back up that reputation. During his first 5 years in the league, Turdsworth averaged less than 2 sacks per season. In the final year of his rookie deal, he racked up contract year, he more than truppled his sack production with 6 sacks. This year, he's got 8.5 sacks.

In my view, the risk of Turdsworth turning out to be a free agent bust is pretty high. But even if he turns out to be an excellent player for some team, we could probably have two guys like Karlos Dansby and Dunta Robinson for the same price. In short, he's not worth the risk or the price.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

For those of you unfamiliar with Turdsworth, let me recount some of his wonderful deeds:

In college, at the University of Tennessee, Turdsworth fought with a teammate. It doesn't end there. He left practice, got a long pole, and returned to practice looking for his "teammate." I don't think he was looking to resolve his differences with his teammate in a dignified manner by jousting.

During Titans training camp, Turdsworth got into a tussle with "teammate" Justin Hartwig, kicked Hartwig in the chest, and had to be restrained by teammates.

During the now infamous Titans-Cowboys game, Turdsworth stomped on Cowboys' center Andre Gurode's face. Gurode needed 30 stitches and Haynesworth narrowly missed Gurode's eye. According to some, Turdsworth actually removed Gurode's helmet and then stomped on Gurode's face. To top it off, when Turdsworth was led off the field, he was yelling at his coach Jeff Fischer for God knows what.

To top it off, Turdsworth has a reputation of being an immensely talented underachiever who didn't produce at a very high level until his contract was about up. His stats back up that reputation. During his first 5 years in the league, Turdsworth averaged less than 2 sacks per season. In the final year of his rookie deal, he racked up contract year, he more than truppled his sack production with 6 sacks. This year, he's got 8.5 sacks.

In my view, the risk of Turdsworth turning out to be a free agent bust is pretty high. But even if he turns out to be an excellent player for some team, we could probably have two guys like Karlos Dansby and Dunta Robinson for the same price. In short, he's not worth the risk or the price.

This is the kind of stuff that bothers me. Guys that play pretty good until their contract year, and then play like a monster. I think guys like this have a tendancy to settle back down after they get the money they were looking for. Another good point is he will probably end up getting around 10 mil a year. As Sheriff pointed out, we could probably get 2 good young players for the price we would have to pay him. He would'nt be the first player to get a huge deal after a great year and then return to the way he was playing before his contract year. Remember, he was'nt the DOMINANT player everybodys talking about until it was time to cash in. The last thing we need is another high-priced underachiever. Any team that signs him will be taking that chance. If it worked out, great, if not, how much more aggravation can we take?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

For those of you unfamiliar with Turdsworth, let me recount some of his wonderful deeds:

In college, at the University of Tennessee, Turdsworth fought with a teammate. It doesn't end there. He left practice, got a long pole, and returned to practice looking for his "teammate." I don't think he was looking to resolve his differences with his teammate in a dignified manner by jousting.

During Titans training camp, Turdsworth got into a tussle with "teammate" Justin Hartwig, kicked Hartwig in the chest, and had to be restrained by teammates.

During the now infamous Titans-Cowboys game, Turdsworth stomped on Cowboys' center Andre Gurode's face. Gurode needed 30 stitches and Haynesworth narrowly missed Gurode's eye. According to some, Turdsworth actually removed Gurode's helmet and then stomped on Gurode's face. To top it off, when Turdsworth was led off the field, he was yelling at his coach Jeff Fischer for God knows what.

To top it off, Turdsworth has a reputation of being an immensely talented underachiever who didn't produce at a very high level until his contract was about up. His stats back up that reputation. During his first 5 years in the league, Turdsworth averaged less than 2 sacks per season. In the final year of his rookie deal, he racked up contract year, he more than truppled his sack production with 6 sacks. This year, he's got 8.5 sacks.

In my view, the risk of Turdsworth turning out to be a free agent bust is pretty high. But even if he turns out to be an excellent player for some team, we could probably have two guys like Karlos Dansby and Dunta Robinson for the same price. In short, he's not worth the risk or the price.

Unfortunately Sheriff brings up a good point. In retrospect bringing in Haynesworth probably isn't the best idea. With that said maybe the best strategy for us during the offseason would be to bring in the top two Panthers (Gross and Peppers) then proceed to draft a DT like Terrance Cody. Either way getting those three players would go a long way towards taking care of our problems up front.

[budw38]

I would not sign him to a long term deal ,,, maybe a 1 yr deal and draft a DE who really gets around the corner . I would rather draft/develope our own , and bring in blue collar overachieving type F/A players .

[mredskins]

I am secertly rooting for the Pats, since I grew up in NE. I was born in DC thus why Iam a Skins fan. It is much easier to root for them this year since there is no Tom Brady.

[horse]

My god this guy is one in a million, Although cody could be also. You don't realize how well our secondary has played with no pass-rush to speak of. He's the kind of guy who will make Jason Taylor and Andre Carter great again. And imagin the turnovers with the pressure he could create look at his numbers and he's getting double and triple teamed he's a monster count me in!

[PretzelBoy]

Originally Posted by horse

My god this guy is one in a million, Although cody could be also. You don't realize how well our secondary has played with no pass-rush to speak of. He's the kind of guy who will make Jason Taylor and Andre Carter great again. And imagin the turnovers with the pressure he could create look at his numbers and he's getting double and triple teamed he's a monster count me in!

I hope you are right but I think Jason Taylor will be gone next year.

:ProFootballTalk.com - JASON TAYLOR SAYS HE’S NOT WORTH $8 MILLION

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by PretzelBoy

I hope you are right but I think Jason Taylor will be gone next year.

:ProFootballTalk.com - JASON TAYLOR SAYS HE’S NOT WORTH $8 MILLION

Welcome to the Warpath PretzelBoy. I don't think I've ever seen that kind of honesty from a player involving his paycheck. Refreshing. And sadly true.

[Eknox]

This would be great ..he's a beast and we need some noise up the middle

[freddyg12]

no!
this is the classic fa mistake that JLC points out; you sign big $ fa's if your on the verge & they can peek w/the rest of your team. This team is far from that. So what if our D is top 5 statistically; we've all seen it decline recently & there is age at crucial positions. This signing would just take too much $. Not only that, I agree w/those here that question his motivation, work ethic,etc. Pay him & he might be a relative bust.

[WaldSkins]

Im all for drafting a DT if we do it in the first round. If we draft a OLineman overall then i think we need to make the free agent splash.

[DIRTEE]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Im all for drafting a DT if we do it in the first round. If we draft a OLineman overall then i think we need to make the free agent splash.

I agree they should grab an offensive lineman and defensive lineman in the draft and also during free agency.

[DarkKnight]

Then to everyone out there, that dont want Haynesworth.....dont Bitch, don't sit here a blame, Vinny or Danny, and no one wants to hear your whinning, about we are not that good up the middle, the truth is, Haynesworth, is an elite player, we haven't brought in any elite players, has beens, and washed up, he make Carter look like an elite DE, even Taylor if he stays, our Corners get better shots at the ball.....IE, look at their CB, there is a bunch of no names there and because he gets the push up the middle, is why they are jumping routes, I say bid for him, cut the old baggage, (springs, smoot, ARE, Washington, Griffin, maybe even trade Moss in a package with one of the guys that need to be cut loose. get mor Draft picks, put him next to Montgomery, we can then draft more on the Offense side of the line, a couple of OLB. we make our team top 5 with Haynesworth.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by DarkKnight

Then to everyone out there, that dont want Haynesworth.....dont Bitch, don't sit here a blame, Vinny or Danny, and no one wants to hear your whinning, about we are not that good up the middle, the truth is, Haynesworth, is an elite player, we haven't brought in any elite players, has beens, and washed up, he make Carter look like an elite DE, even Taylor if he stays, our Corners get better shots at the ball.....IE, look at their CB, there is a bunch of no names there and because he gets the push up the middle, is why they are jumping routes, I say bid for him, cut the old baggage, (springs, smoot, ARE, Washington, Griffin, maybe even trade Moss in a package with one of the guys that need to be cut loose. get mor Draft picks, put him next to Montgomery, we can then draft more on the Offense side of the line, a couple of OLB. we make our team top 5 with Haynesworth.

Huh? How is Haynesworth going to make the Redskins a top 5 team? Does he play offensive tackle too?