Questions that might effect the DRAFT

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Depending on the picks of teams before us, what if that lineman left at 13 isn't projected on our board to step in right away... and by some stroke of good fortune, nobody took the top rated safety (who coincidentally will grade out as the best safety prospect since Swoop) by then?

The FO had in mind who they wanted last season in the first round (linemen, btw)... but they weren't willing to settle for someone piddling in the middle of their board just b/c their targets were all snatched up early.

Where exactly are you hearing this about Mays?

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Where exactly are you hearing this about Mays?

Er, the part about Mays grading out or him possibly staying at SC? The grading out part is just my conjecture lol. Him possibly staying is from a few inside sources on the SC forum (usually very credible)... but I think he's now seeing the possibility that his stock may just rise even more during the combine. Plus, he got one of those NFL draft evaluations so I'm thinking he knows what's up.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Er, the part about Mays grading out or him possibly staying at SC? The grading out part is just my conjecture lol. Him possibly staying is from a few inside sources on the SC forum (usually very credible)... but I think he's now seeing the possibility that his stock may just rise even more during the combine. Plus, he got one of those NFL draft evaluations so I'm thinking he knows what's up.

How he grades out, because I got to tell ya what I've heard is that a lot of front office personnel and scouts aren't as high on him, later in the first round possibly early second is what they're thinking.

Would like to get your thoughts on Moala though.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Depending on the picks of teams before us, what if that lineman left at 13 isn't projected on our board to step in right away... and by some stroke of good fortune, nobody took the top rated safety (who coincidentally will grade out as the best safety prospect since Swoop) by then?

The FO had in mind who they wanted last season in the first round (linemen, btw)... but they weren't willing to settle for someone piddling in the middle of their board just b/c their targets were all snatched up early.

Yep, Mays is the second coming of ST and the Niners will probably get him if he's on the board. He's 6'3" 230LB, hits hard and runs in the 4.4 in the 40, reports of 4.3 speed have been mentioned.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Yep, Mays is the second coming of ST and the Niners will probably get him if he's on the board. He's 6'3" 230LB, hits hard and runs in the 4.4 in the 40, reports of 4.3 speed have been mentioned.

Actually, there are many reports that he's gone sub-4.3. The players say he's the fastest dude on the team... a freakin' safety running faster than all our 5-star corners, backs and receivers.. wow.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Depending on the picks of teams before us, what if that lineman left at 13 isn't projected on our board to step in right away... and by some stroke of good fortune, nobody took the top rated safety (who coincidentally will grade out as the best safety prospect since Swoop) by then?

The FO had in mind who they wanted last season in the first round (linemen, btw)... but they weren't willing to settle for someone piddling in the middle of their board just b/c their targets were all snatched up early.

I think Mays is a beast, but how would he help this Redskins team?

We're good at safety. Mays would probably be an upgrade over Horton but by how much? IMO he's not a big enough improvement to warrant passing on an offensive lineman, defensive lineman or linebacker.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I think Mays is a beast, but how would he help this Redskins team?

We're good at safety. Mays would probably be an upgrade over Horton but by how much? IMO he's not a big enough improvement to warrant passing on an offensive lineman, defensive lineman or linebacker.

Mays makes sense if we decide to make the Cobra package our base defense. If we are dead set on doing that, it makes more sense than waiting for Kareem Moore to develop in that role. That would eliminate the need for a pass rushing OLB.

But even though the Cobra formation is something that Blache, not Williams, created, I don't give Blache enough credit to not fall back into the comfort of the 4-3, which would essentially put Horton on the bench for most of the game. We wouldn't use Mays enough to make it work.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Mays makes sense if we decide to make the Cobra package our base defense. If we are dead set on doing that, it makes more sense than waiting for Kareem Moore to develop in that role. That would eliminate the need for a pass rushing OLB.

But even though the Cobra formation is something that Blache, not Williams, created, I don't give Blache enough credit to not fall back into the comfort of the 4-3, which would essentially put Horton on the bench for most of the game. We wouldn't use Mays enough to make it work.

(I'm a big fan of the cobra)
I wonder if it actually was Blache that came up with the Cobra package, my guess would be Gray/Jackson. If Mays falls to the 13th spot it just wouldn't make sense to take him.

IMO if Blache really wanted to use the Cobra package more they could do it with any combo of: Landry, Horton, Moore(who Blache really likes), Doughty and Springs (if he returns).
Vinnie or Blache or Gray/Jackson or whoever is behind the drafting the safety postion has been doing a good job if they want another safety they could likely find another gem later on.

[SmootSmack]

Haven't really heard any specifics, just that some NFL folk think he will fall. I think there are some intangibles at play, does he read offenses well?

[redskins301]

i think we shod 1 sign peppers or haynsworth that wood fix the d line and think about it taylor and peppers on bouth ends sounds nice 2 cut kendel carter danels jansen 3 sign a beast Oline men in the draft at the 13# pick michael oher if he falls that far or trade down 4 give kelly and thomas more playing time let the rookies play maybie ther the next best 1 2 in the leage like fitsgerrel and bolden

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by redskins301

i think we shod 1 sign peppers or haynsworth that wood fix the d line and think about it taylor and peppers on bouth ends sounds nice 2 cut kendel carter danels jansen 3 sign a beast Oline men in the draft at the 13# pick michael oher if he falls that far or trade down 4 give kelly and thomas more playing time let the rookies play maybie ther the next best 1 2 in the leage like fitsgerrel and bolden

Holy shit it's annoying to read your post. Learn to use 1 commas 2 periods 3 capital letters 4 correct grammar.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Holy shit it's annoying to read your post. Learn to use: 1 commas 2 periods 3 capital letters 4 correct grammar.

Also other punctuation marks like the colon. LOL.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Also other punctuation marks like the colon. LOL.

Ahh yes the colon. Thanks Ruh

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Ahh yes the colon. Thanks Ruh

No problem!! LOL.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redskins301

i think we shod 1 sign peppers or haynsworth that wood fix the d line and think about it taylor and peppers on bouth ends sounds nice 2 cut kendel carter danels jansen 3 sign a beast Oline men in the draft at the 13# pick michael oher if he falls that far or trade down 4 give kelly and thomas more playing time let the rookies play maybie ther the next best 1 2 in the leage like fitsgerrel and bolden

Welcome to the board, that's some stellar spelling skills you got there