Redskins Win In Appeals Court

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I agree that the Cleveland Indians is not a slur against Native Americans, but you have to agree that the mascot, Chief Wahoo, is more offensive than the one on the Redskins helmet...

Yes it is. Im referring to the Redskins team name.

[Missin21]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

The Skins won in the Appeals Court on the suit challenging the team's nickname as being racist. Unfortunately, it was decided on a technicality and not on the issue of the propriety of the nickname - - meaning that there can and probably will be further lawsuits on this matter.

Now, if the team can be equally successful on the field in the 2009 season ...

I thought this nonsense was over. Don't they realize that George Preston Marshall named the team because of all the NA players they had when they were in Boston? It was a respect thing. People need to get over themselves.

Originally Posted by Missin21

I thought this nonsense was over. Don't they realize that George Preston Marshall named the team because of all the NA players they had when they were in Boston? It was a respect thing. People need to get over themselves.

The same George Preston Marshall who also didnt allow blacks on the Redskins until the government forced him in 1962?

[Missin21]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

The same George Preston Marshall who also didnt allow blacks on the Redskins until the government forced him in 1962?

Yes, but the team isn't named the Washington Ni***rs or Negros or Black people, it's named Redskins. Your statement is somewhat irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Missin21

Yes, but the team isn't named the Washington Ni***rs or Negros or Black people, it's named Redskins. Your statement is somewhat irrelevant.

Yeah maybe it is. Im just saying using a racist as a reason why the team name isnt racist is a bad example imo. I know he was racist over a different group of people but the less of GPM in this thread the better.

[SmokinSkins]

A whopping 46 people have attached their name to that petition. There is a small group who believe that the name is racist and want it removed. After they win that fight they will proceed to the next fight. That is their choice, but I don't believe most people look at the name as racist. It may be to some and not to others.
"The Demise and Removal of the Washington Redskins Logo Petition"

I am mostly white with some Cherokee blood, and I love the Redskins. I look at the symbol as one of honor for the Native Americans. They were warriors as all the peoples and tribes in this world have been. When I see the current Redskin symbol, I only have positive thoughts of the Native Americans. Every Sunday when the Redskins play everyone who watches mostly sees a football game, but some will see a positive symbol of a proud people, and some will only think of what they had, and will never have again.

These people may get their way, and what will they be left with? The remembrance of their people and what they once were will fade even more into a distance memory.
Some of these name changes are crazy; soon there will be no Indian names at all. The Native Americans will then have truly vanished from the modern arena of warfare, called sports.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmokinSkins

A whopping 46 people have attached their name to that petition. There is a small group who believe that the name is racist and want it removed. After they win that fight they will proceed to the next fight. That is their choice, but I don't believe most people look at the name as racist. It may be to some and not to others.
"The Demise and Removal of the Washington Redskins Logo Petition"

I am mostly white with some Cherokee blood, and I love the Redskins. I look at the symbol as one of honor for the Native Americans. They were warriors as all the peoples and tribes in this world have been. When I see the current Redskin symbol, I only have positive thoughts of the Native Americans. Every Sunday when the Redskins play everyone who watches mostly sees a football game, but some will see a positive symbol of a proud people, and some will only think of what they had, and will never have again.

These people may get their way, and what will they be left with? The remembrance of their people and what they once were will fade even more into a distance memory.
Some of these name changes are crazy; soon there will be no Indian names at all. The Native Americans will then have truly vanished from the modern arena of warfare, called sports.

Good post. Thanks for your imput and welcome to The Warpath!

[DBUCHANON101]

I couldnt imagine how i would feel if we had to change our team name and logo.

[SBXVII]

Def;
The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."

Clearly the team is not trying to prove that it's superior then the NA or dominate them.


Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular racial group, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief.

Again the team is not trying to show any signs of superiority over any NA.

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each racial group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another racial group or racial groups.

I honestly don't see why the NA are upset. No where have the Redskins tried to show they are inferior to any NA's. If nothing else perhaps they have put them on a pedistal because we all know the Redskins are the best team and are happy to have the name, which is actually showing they are superior. So why complain. LOL.

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I honestly don't see why the NA are upset. No where have the Redskins tried to show they are inferior to any NA's. If nothing else perhaps they have put them on a pedistal because we all know the Redskins are the best team and are happy to have the name, which is actually showing they are superior. So why complain. LOL.

I dont think its because of anything about the team per say. The Redskins and their fans honor Indians. I think its because Redskins is a racial slur towards Indians.

[SBXVII]

Look if it makes you all feel better change the name to the Washington Crackers. I don't care. I'll still root for the local team. It's just a shame that people have nothing better to do in their lives then to take up time and energy trying to change a name of an organization instead of simply enjoying life and having fun.

I see them as the one busy boddy in the neighbor hood who can't keep his or her nose out of other peoples business and has to complain about everything cause their lives are so misserable they have to make sure no one else is happy.

I don't like the Dallas cowboys. I find them offensive. So ....I don't root for them. Let them keep their screwed up name and colors...I don't care.

Edit: No different then the smoking issue(and I'm not a smoker). I can't wait until the Coffie Haters of America start sueing coffie companies cause coffie has caffine or the smell makes them sick and should not be in the work place. Caffine is a drug you know. Can't have people all hyped up.

and what about soda? Too much alcohol causes liver problems....maybe we should sue over that also and have it banned again due to medical costs.

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Look if it makes you all feel better change the name to the Washington Crackers. I don't care. I'll still root for the local team. It's just a shame that people have nothing better to do in their lives then to take up time and energy trying to change a name of an organization instead of simply enjoying life and having fun.

I see them as the one busy boddy in the neighbor hood who can't keep his or her nose out of other peoples business and has to complain about everything cause their lives are so misserable they have to make sure no one else is happy.

Thats one way to look at it. Or you can look at it as a group of people who dont like to see a racial slur as a team name of a football franchise.

I like our team name because we honor Indians and have alot of respect for them and their history. I can understand why some Indians have a problem with it though.

[hooskins]

Washington Reds

[hooskins]

This is racist...

[Ijaeger]

They will always be the Redskins to me, regardless.