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Old 09-11-2009, 11:07 AM   #1
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Re: Question: Why are Titans a "Super Bowl Contender" while we are laughing stock?

Part of what makes Jeff Fisher "great" is that he's had the opportunity to stick it out for so many years in Houston/Tennessee. Some of his greatness is really longevity. His teams though have finished .500 or less over half his career.
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:23 AM   #2
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Part of what makes Jeff Fisher "great" is that he's had the opportunity to stick it out for so many years in Houston/Tennessee. Some of his greatness is really longevity. His teams though have finished .500 or less over half his career.
That's why I am hoping JZ gets to stay on for many years. Coaching stability, not high priced big shot names is what we need. Unless he shows total ineptitude, we need to give him time.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:54 PM   #3
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That's why I am hoping JZ gets to stay on for many years. Coaching stability, not high priced big shot names is what we need. Unless he shows total ineptitude, we need to give him time.
It's not like the Redskins shortcomings aren't spelled out for them. Everyone I listen too says the very same thing in describing the way they do business. With this team "and it's fans" if things don't happen for the good overnight, straight to the wagon of change they go seeking refuge which all too often has failed to deliver. We need to give hope a chance.
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Old 09-11-2009, 12:35 PM   #4
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Re: Question: Why are Titans a "Super Bowl Contender" while we are laughing stock?

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Part of what makes Jeff Fisher "great" is that he's had the opportunity to stick it out for so many years in Houston/Tennessee. Some of his greatness is really longevity. His teams though have finished .500 or less over half his career.

Good point! How long has Jeff Fisher been coaching his team? Longer than our last three coaches combined, and a testement to structure and stability.

If things do not start well for us this season, we're going to again see what seperates us from teams that consistently contend year after year. We will again be talking about a new or different coach, a different QB and who knows what else, all signs of instability.

A laughing stock we not be yet, but as long as we continue changing the guard year after year we can continue to expect more of the same.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:28 PM   #5
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Good point! How long has Jeff Fisher been coaching his team? Longer than our last three coaches combined, and a testement to structure and stability.

If things do not start well for us this season, we're going to again see what seperates us from teams that consistently contend year after year. We will again be talking about a new or different coach, a different QB and who knows what else, all signs of instability.

A laughing stock we not be yet, but as long as we continue changing the guard year after year we can continue to expect more of the same.

HA! He still couldn't beat Spurrier. What does that tell you? huh huh? Mua hahahaha. Fun n' Gun forever.
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Good point! How long has Jeff Fisher been coaching his team? Longer than our last three coaches combined, and a testement to structure and stability.

If things do not start well for us this season, we're going to again see what seperates us from teams that consistently contend year after year. We will again be talking about a new or different coach, a different QB and who knows what else, all signs of instability.

A laughing stock we not be yet, but as long as we continue changing the guard year after year we can continue to expect more of the same.

HA! He still couldn't beat Spurrier. What does that tell you? huh huh? Mua hahahaha. Fun n' Gun forever.

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Old 09-11-2009, 11:47 AM   #7
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Re: Question: Why are Titans a "Super Bowl Contender" while we are laughing stock?

If you just count Jeff Fisher's most recent 10 seasons:

He's won at least 10 games 6 of them
Won 13 games 3 times
12 once
11 once

Jeff Fisher is the best coach in the NFL. He was in complete rebuilding modes some of those years too. I would be the happiest fan in the world to have 5 11+ win seasons in a 10 year span. Wow. It's really unbelievable when you think of it.

That's why, I've been saying in the last couple years how I'm a little sick of having a team that is mediocre year after year. I'd rather rebuild for a couple then to always think we're right on the cusp if we just add this or that. Are we really on the cusp of a SB? I think we've got a good team, i just think we've got some holes in our team that will hold us back.

The Jeff Fisher teams, the Bill Belicheck teams always play for not only this year but the future as well. The future is very bright.

By the way, Jim Schwartz IMO will be a great coach in the NFL. I said it back before we interviewed him and I'll say it again.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:07 PM   #8
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It's not just b/c ownership gave JF time. It's the fact that they gave someone who they believed was a great leader and who is also immensly talented time. He's "super smart."
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Re: Question: Why are Titans a "Super Bowl Contender" while we are laughing stock?

Can someone explain to me how Kerry Collins was a Pro Bowl QB last year with under 3,000 yards passing, 12 TD's and 7 ints?
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Can someone explain to me how Kerry Collins was a Pro Bowl QB last year with under 3,000 yards passing, 12 TD's and 7 ints?
Because the pro bowl is a popularity contest and not stat driven.
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Because the pro bowl is a popularity contest and not stat driven.
Sounds about right. Probably the main reason Michael Vick got to all those pro bowls late in his career when he had no business being there (earlier though he definitely earned it). Plus there was Marshall Faulk when he rushed for around 900 yards during his Madden Curse year. Maybe fans and even players should be held out of the voting process. At least secretly.

I'll go so far to admit that stats aren't everything but at Kerry Collins greatest achievement seems to be he didn't F-Up where as if they had left the offense up to Vince Young they probably would have had to many turnovers to deal with. Michael Roos and Chris Johnson had more to do with that offenses success then Kerry Collins ever did.
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:42 PM   #12
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Sounds about right. Probably the main reason Michael Vick got to all those pro bowls late in his career when he had no business being there (earlier though he definitely earned it). Plus there was Marshall Faulk when he rushed for around 900 yards during his Madden Curse year. Maybe fans and even players should be held out of the voting process. At least secretly.

I'll go so far to admit that stats aren't everything but at Kerry Collins greatest achievement seems to be he didn't F-Up where as if they had left the offense up to Vince Young they probably would have had to many turnovers to deal with. Michael Roos and Chris Johnson had more to do with that offenses success then Kerry Collins ever did.
Collins is crafty. I can't remember what game it was last year, but the Titans running game gut shut down and Collins went on a tear passing the ball. He proved that they couldn't be forced into being one-dimensional even though they sometimes are because they can.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:27 PM   #13
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Because the pro bowl is a popularity contest and not stat driven.
frankly, I want my guys not getting voted to the pro bowl. lets keep'em hungry. Look at fletcher. Keep'em motivated. pro bowl is just another opportunity to get hurt anyway and increases the cost of the player (though i'm not sure it has any salary cap implications).
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^^ Because his name wasn't "Jason Campbell" (3,200+ yards, 13 TD's, 6 INT's).
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I'm just thinking ... as the game is about to kick off tonight..

Why exactly are the Tennessee Titans a legit contender and we are a joke when someone picks us for the playoffs?

What do they have a QB? at WR? Is there defensive players better than ours?

Is it a coach thing? An organization thing?

When I look at their roster, then at ours, I just am puzzled...
Perhaps it is because they had the best record in football last season at 13-3 that included a 10 game winning streak to start the season.

And they punished the Steelers 31-14 last year to win the top seed in the AFC.
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