Where are Kelly & Thomas?

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by jamf

The Redskins just cannot execute a respectable fade route. The last time it was in the playbook was in the Michael Westrbrook days and even then we only ran it once a year because he would tear up a knee coming down with the ball.

I just don't understand what people see in Jumpball Jesus. He is tall and can probably jump but so can a million other people at home watching football.
I hope he works out but I'm not going to get my hopes up over a camp scrub, I did with Darnarian McCants, Tydus Winans, Leslie Sheppard, Jacques Green and the legendary Taylor Jacobs...

Who is Jumpball Jesus? Kelly or Mitchell? ROTFL

That's funny!!

[jamf]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Who is Jumpball Jesus? Kelly or Mitchell? ROTFL

That's funny!!

Marko Mitchell.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by jamf

Marko Mitchell.

LOL. I rather have "jump ball jesus" than "slow foot judas" at this point...LMAO

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

LOL. I rather have "jump ball jesus" than "slow foot judas" at this point...LMAO

I wonder how long until some religious person here goes off on a rant about these names.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by jamf

The Redskins just cannot execute a respectable fade route. The last time it was in the playbook was in the Michael Westrbrook days and even then we only ran it once a year because he would tear up a knee coming down with the ball.

I just don't understand what people see in Jumpball Jesus. He is tall and can probably jump but so can a million other people at home watching football.
I hope he works out but I'm not going to get my hopes up over a camp scrub, I did with Darnarian McCants, Tydus Winans, Leslie Sheppard, Jacques Green and the legendary Taylor Jacobs...

I can't speak for anyone else but I can tell you what I see in him. A player who makes plays in GAMES, not just practice. They may have only been preseason games but that's all he's been called on and he's done better than MK or DT in them. I see a young guy making blocks down field his first year in the league. I also see a guy "getting it" a lot sooner than MK or DT have done. He has also "earned" his chance, not by his draft status, but by his work. All you can do is give the guy a chance and see how he does. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. If he were a high draft pick he'd probably already be playing.

[BrunellMVP?]

i expect 0 from thomas but kelly's lack of production is surprising. he's got the size and talent to go over the middle (and the hands). is it his route running? unable to get open? very frustrating. I also don't understand why davis isn't being used more- he's too talented to be a bust.

[redskin4n]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

I remember at the beginning of the season. All the football experts and analysts were saying a key to the Redskins season was one of the 2nd round pick receivers stepping up. At first the front runner was Thomas. The reports were that he worked with JC through out the off season to get better and more prepared for the season. Ironically, Kelly took over the second WR spot after hardly playing last year. Saying that, Kelly still hasn't showed all this ball snatching potential he was touted for in the off season. In preseason Marko really shined. Some say it was just preseason and that it doesn't translate to the regular season. But it seems that Kelly and Thomas have been no existent. I think that the coaching staff has really lost confidence in them. As well as JC.

On the pass that was intended for Kelly that ended up being a INT. I didn't see proper positioning and efffort in him going up for the ball. He went for it at an awkward angle and allowed a smaller DB force him to the sidelines before the play on the ball. This guy is 6'3 and didn't extend properly for a jump ball effort. That INT was on JC. But when you look at taller receivers like Calvin Johnson and Randy Moss. They go up and snatch the ball from smaller DBs. My thoughts were that was the reason we drafted him. I have also heard that he is not getting separation from the defenders.

Is it premature to think that Mitchell should be bumped up on the depth chart since he has a nack for catching touchdowns and also has more speed for separation?

We wonder why our offense is looking the same as it has last year. Most of the blame has been on JC. But shouldn't the 2nd year WRs be held accountable also? They have been no existent. So basically my whole point is that we are back to where we were before we drafted them. Moss Cooley and ARE as our options!! On that note Fred Davis has been non-existent also. So where do you think we should go from here. Please chime in...

That play was VERY VERY SIMILAR to the one that Brandon Marshall had vs. DallASS

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by redskin4n

That play was VERY VERY SIMILAR to the one that Brandon Marshall had vs. DallASS

That is exactly what I was thinking and you see what Marshall did with that pass. Was it perfect. NO. But he made something out of it and attacked the ball. I see more of that type of attitude from Mitchell than I do from Kelly.

[GTripp0012]

Like I said before, there's nothing wrong with Malcolm Kelly's polish and route running abilities. He's just never going to get behind the safeties in his career.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Like I said before, there's nothing wrong with Malcolm Kelly's polish and route running abilities. He's just never going to get behind the safeties in his career.

I was watching that again and thinking those would have been perfect routes for Thomas to be running instead of Kelly.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I was watching that again and thinking those would have been perfect routes for Thomas to be running instead of Kelly.

You and me both

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I was watching that again and thinking those would have been perfect routes for Thomas to be running instead of Kelly.

Well, he's not either, but for entirely different reasons.

We have no idea what Marko Mitchell is like as a player, especially since Nevada is a run heavy WAC team. The guy has skills, but those skills may or may not include a deep game.

[The Goat]

This is a question that doesn't need endless pages of debate to answer. Look around the league and you see a shit ton of ROOKIE WRs making really significant contributions to their football team. Minn, NY, Philly all have very young guys - like 1st or 2nd year - making big plays, and I'm sure there are ample more I just don't follow enough teams to point everyone out. Meanwhile the Skins employ a WR coach who HAS NEVER DEVELOPED A SINGLE PLAYER AT THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL. I think he's been w/ us for over 5 years now. The thought should be simply mind-boggling. This is like a doctor who never diagnoses a single patient, a loan officer who never closes a single loan, a lawyer who never wins a single case. The only wide-outs who have any success w/ the Skins are guys who learned elsewhere. Hixon hasn't taught a single player in his group to run a crisp route, create separation from the defender, or position his body to block out the defender. Our young wide-outs look retarded out there but I'm saying it's not really something you can hold against them.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by The Goat

This is a question that doesn't need endless pages of debate to answer. Look around the league and you see a shit ton of ROOKIE WRs making really significant contributions to their football team. Minn, NY, Philly all have very young guys - like 1st or 2nd year - making big plays, and I'm sure there are ample more I just don't follow enough teams to point everyone out. Meanwhile the Skins employ a WR coach who HAS NEVER DEVELOPED A SINGLE PLAYER AT THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL. I think he's been w/ us for over 5 years now. The thought should be simply mind-boggling. This is like a doctor who never diagnoses a single patient, a loan officer who never closes a single loan, a lawyer who never wins a single case. The only wide-outs who have any success w/ the Skins are guys who learned elsewhere. Hixon hasn't taught a single player in his group to run a crisp route, create separation from the defender, or position his body to block out the defender. Our young wide-outs look retarded out there but I'm saying it's not really something you can hold against them.

Good point. To be honest I can't remember the last time we developed a WR we drafted in a while. I think a lot of our position coaches are suspect. Add DB coach to that list also.

[SFREDSKIN]

I'm sorry, but a combined 10 receptions for 82 yards for 3X 2nd round picks is unacceptable. Thomas has a whopping reception, big Fred 3 and Malcom 6. Time to go back to the drawing board like the defense did this week and get these guys more involved.