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Old 11-16-2009, 11:44 AM   #1
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

Hopefully our new GM can convince another team to give up a 2nd round pick in the 2010 draft for Los. That would be ideal!
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:45 AM   #2
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

First, our D is best against pass because the majority of teams we have played are crap.

I promise you that number will be getting worst as get to the meat of our schedule. Philly made our Pass D look terrible, and Denver(a bad vertical passing team) burnt us with the deep ball.

Dallas is gonna try this several times.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:53 AM   #3
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

Rogers is a cancer. He has mentally checked out on this season and is counting the days until free agency. I wouldn't be suprised if he wasn't blowing coverages on purpose to blow the season, he seems to have serious personal issues with the front office.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:01 PM   #4
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

See I was thinking he may be stinking up on purpose, but that just doesn't make sense. If he really wants out and he wants to get paid by another team, why suck on purpose? That just decreases his value and desirability.

It just doesn't make sense; I think he is just having a bad stretch.
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See I was thinking he may be stinking up on purpose, but that just doesn't make sense. If he really wants out and he wants to get paid by another team, why suck on purpose? That just decreases his value and desirability.

It just doesn't make sense; I think he is just having a bad stretch.
I don't think he's intentionally tanking it, I think he's a quitter. That would be a bigger red flag for me as a potential employer than poor performance in a contract year because of scheme or technique.

He got benched yesterday NOT for biting on the double move but for completely giving up on the play and jogging while the ball was in the air. That was more pathetic than falling for the move. CB get beat all the time but how they react is what coaches look at.
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

He's only hurting his own value if he was tanking on purpose. Besides, there's no guarantee he's a FA after this season if the CBA falls through.
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He's only hurting his own value if he was tanking on purpose. Besides, there's no guarantee he's a FA after this season if the CBA falls through.
Yup. If the CBA falls through, he is screwed. The skins could give him either a 1st or 2nd round tender and that's it for him. I don't think any team would give up there 1st to sign him and doubt that many would give up their 2nd. If any team wants him at that price, let him go. If not, Hall and Barnes are the starters and Rogers is the nickel.

I am with GTripp, however, it seems when Rogers screws up Blache throws him under the bus. When Hall screws up, Blache can't kiss up fast enough.

Not a big Blache supporter these days as, I believe, he is responsible for the fact that our defense has players whose strengths do not mesh well with each other (e.g. D Hall, C Rogers). The defense does not seem creative and Blache seems truly unconcerned with manufacturing pressure. To me this defense is underperforming - with its personnel, it should have been dominant against Det., KC & the rest of the 0'fers. It flashed but did not play consistently.

I think Blache needs to go and would be happy to seem him replaced by a G. Williams guy (Jackson, Gray).
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Yup. If the CBA falls through, he is screwed. The skins could give him either a 1st or 2nd round tender and that's it for him. I don't think any team would give up there 1st to sign him and doubt that many would give up their 2nd. If any team wants him at that price, let him go. If not, Hall and Barnes are the starters and Rogers is the nickel.

I am with GTripp, however, it seems when Rogers screws up Blache throws him under the bus. When Hall screws up, Blache can't kiss up fast enough.

Not a big Blache supporter these days as, I believe, he is responsible for the fact that our defense has players whose strengths do not mesh well with each other (e.g. D Hall, C Rogers). The defense does not seem creative and Blache seems truly unconcerned with manufacturing pressure. To me this defense is underperforming - with its personnel, it should have been dominant against Det., KC & the rest of the 0'fers. It flashed but did not play consistently.

I think Blache needs to go and would be happy to seem him replaced by a G. Williams guy (Jackson, Gray).
That would be a good thing.
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

I would say that also, but it's like Lavar paying to leave. As long as he see's the field, he'll get paid. If he has a decent year here he would run the risk of us signing his tender. He can go to Atlanta or where ever and have a big year elsewhere then renegotiate.
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

Yeah I guess, but I haven't seen him quitting on a regular basis before that. I am not too concerned. I am, however, concerned about how our secondary looks without 'Los next week.

A brick wall, is an upgrade over Smoot.
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Yeah I guess, but I haven't seen him quitting on a regular basis before that. I am not too concerned. I am, however, concerned about how our secondary looks without 'Los next week.

A brick wall, is an upgrade over Smoot.
He quit last year vs. Cincy and against Philly when he gave his reps to Smoot.. Redskins Insider - Rogers, Possibly on the Way Out
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Rogers said he played only nine snaps against Cincinnati a few weeks back, with him deferring to fourth corner Fred Smoot on many snaps. "I said Smoot, 'You can take some of these reps.'"
Seriously, what NFL player that is serious about his game GIVES REPS to another player? If that's not a quitter, I don't know what is.
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

Let him sign with the Cowboys. Then next year, Santana Moss can put a double move on his ass.
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

Rogers is a mystery to me this year. I understand that he doesn't want to be here, fine. But this is a contract year and he is killing himself if he is looking for a big deal. He should be having his BEST year not one of his worst. Plus my understanding is under an uncapped year (which seems likely), we can retain him for an additional year for relatively cheap. I have told people that I think he is tanking it but he is killing his value. He may think that he is a good player stuck in a bad franchise but I think that an outsider might say that our defense has been good in spite of his poor play.

If I were the Redskins going into the offseason, I would restrict him and trade him for the highest draft pick just to show him who is really calling the shots. Now typically we don't do this but I certainly wouldn't reward him with a long term deal or reward his poor play and bad behavior by cutting him outright.

For a corner who cannot catch the ball, I think he is overplaying his hand.
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If I were the Redskins going into the offseason, I would restrict him and trade him for the highest draft pick just to show him who is really calling the shots. Now typically we don't do this but I certainly wouldn't reward him with a long term deal or reward his poor play and bad behavior by cutting him outright.

For a corner who cannot catch the ball, I think he is overplaying his hand.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:42 PM   #15
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Re: RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

"I ain't even going to think about no future here."

You're not that good fool....don't let the door hit you on your way out. If you can take Hall with you that would be awesome.
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