Who Stays And Who Goes? Perceptions Changing?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Did you stop and think maybe the guys that are playing now are better than the ones not playing?

Not on the OL they are not.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Have you watched the games since the 2nd half of the Atlanta game? They should have beaten the Cowboys (Suisham missed 2 FG) should have beaten Philly in Philly and yesterday's game because of Suisham again. Remember this team is playing without:

Samuels
Thomas
Portis
Cooley
Rinehart
Betts
Jarmon
Horton

Haynesworth was also out of the Eagles and Cowboys game and could have been a difference maker.

And has still enough talent

We have young talent too. This is not an old team.

[franklinhimself]

We need to shop away CP, Landry, and Rogers.
Between the three of them, I think they are the biggest distractions to the team- I want to add Hall to the list but we can't get rid of our entire secondary. Portis's attitude, Landry's showboat attitude, and unfortunately Roger's standoff with the organization and coaches.

To note though, the great and late Sean Taylor's first two seasons were spotted with blown assignments, unsportsmanlike conduct penalties- you name it. It wasn't until seasons 3 and 4 that he became the player we hoped we'd get out of him.

Otherwise, between the three of them we can probably get a few quality mid-round picks. Maybe a 2 and 3?

[Defensewins]

It is clear some of the young players are finally starting to produce, the three high draft picks from last year most notably.
There are some players that when healthy are great, but they can not stay healthy. This is a problem. We should not continue to roll the dice and pray they can stay healthy when it is clear they can not. Best example of this is Randy Thomas, they guy is a great player when healthy, but he can not stay healthy for an entire season. It is time to cut our losses.
We need to get younger especially on the O and D lines.

[CRedskinsRule]

I think the two major off-season changes that could have the most impact, with the littlest disruption: 1) fire VC. I think he has done better than most give him credit, but he has ignored the OL and is basically a divisive character, not a unifying one. 2) bring in an OC who calls his full plays. Preferably not a completely new system. And Zorn stays due to his presence this year. I think we could have seen this whole team simply go up in smoke, with the injuries and early losses, but Zorn has kept them together. I don't really think he will make it as a HC, but I think what he has done is worth one more year to build on. Just get a unified playcalling structure, (not Sherm Lewis, who I am very happy with, but is a stop gap solution, not the next great thing)

[MTK]

Somebody called in NFL radio a few minutes ago and asked Marty what he thought, and he said doesn't think we should blow things up. He basically said keep what works and keep building. He thinks Zorn should stay.

[rbanerjee23]

get rid of vinny, rebuild the o line, get a new running back and please get better coaching for landry...campbell is not the problem I have been saying this week after week

[RMSkins]

What is so obviously clear to me is that Zorn and Cerrato need to be gone after this year, after that I would be fine with everyone else returning.

[12thMan]

I must say, Sherm Lewis has made all the difference in the past four weeks. Little by little, we've seen Fred Davis emerge first, then Devin Thomas in recent weeks, now I imagine Kelly will be worked into the game plan more and more.

I'm simply resigned to make some minor offseason personnel adjustments and keep Zorn and Lewis. JC is starting to look too comfortable to blow things up again.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I must say, Sherm Lewis has made all the difference in the past four weeks. Little by little, we've seen Fred Davis emerge first, then Devin Thomas in recent weeks, now I imagine Kelly will be worked into the game plan more and more.

I'm simply resigned to make some minor offseason personnel adjustments and keep Zorn and Lewis. JC is starting to look too comfortable to blow things up again.

I wonder though what will happen when Portis and more importantly Cooley return. How will Lewis or whoever work Cooley back in and still develop guys like Davis?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wonder though what will happen when Portis and more importantly Cooley return. How will Lewis or whoever work Cooley back in and still develop guys like Davis?

I think the organization will do everything in it's power to get rid of Portis, if not he'll play a more limited role next year. Less carries, more 3rd down packages. But no more marquee status or workload for Portis. Also, I think there's more upside to keeping Cooley at this point. I have to believe that Sherm Lewis wants as many weapons as possible next year. We'll experiment with the double TE set next season and go from there.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think the organization will do everything in it's power to get rid of Portis, if not he'll play a more limited role next year. Less carries, more 3rd down packages. But no more marquee status or workload for Portis. Also, I think there's more upside to keeping Cooley at this point. I have to believe that Sherm Lewis wants as many weapons as possible next year. We'll experiment with the double TE set next season and go from there.

I believe the organization owes Portis something in the range of another $10million in guaranteed/deferred money. If so, I don't think they will do "everything in its power" to dump him...

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

I believe the organization owes Portis something in the range of another $10million in guaranteed/deferred money. If so, I don't think they will do "everything in its power" to dump him...

Even though you said you'd cut him in a heartbeat?

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wonder though what will happen when Portis and more importantly Cooley return. How will Lewis or whoever work Cooley back in and still develop guys like Davis?

Won't have to, nothing wrong with having two wide receiver sets. Screw it, lets develop some young receivers and worst comes to worse we can dump moss and randle el and be set in our receiving corps for years to come.

[12thMan]

Just to reiterate my point about Portis, if we can keep him in the 12-15 carry range, I think we could rejuvenate his career.