Redskins trading out of the 4 spot?

[DIE-NASTY]

a 3 and a 5? I think I'd rather keep the guy. He has shown flashes that he can play at a high level. Let's assemble a real NFL-caliber offensive line. Who knows if the guys we pick by trading JC to Buff will pan out.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by DIE-NASTY

a 3 and a 5? I think I'd rather keep the guy. He has shown flashes that he can play at a high level. Let's assemble a real NFL-caliber offensive line. Who knows if the guys we pick by trading JC to Buff will pan out.

I think a 3 and a 5 is good value. I am surprised if we can even get a 3.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by celts32

I think a 3 and a 5 is good value. I am surprised if we can even get a 3.

For Campbell? Why not? It's not like he was putting up JaMarcus Russell or Derek Anderson numbers last season.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

For Campbell? Why not? It's not like he was putting up JaMarcus Russell or Derek Anderson numbers last season.

Because he hasn't really done much. He will probably never be more then a pretty good player. Russell is worthless but why would JC be worth more then Derek Anderson? Anderson had a season a couple years ago that was better then anything JC has done. I don't want to completely trash JC but i just think it's time to move on and i would be thrilled to get a #3 pick in the process.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by celts32

Because he hasn't really done much. He will probably never be more then a pretty good player. Russell is worthless but why would JC be worth more then Derek Anderson? Anderson had a season a couple years ago that was better then anything JC has done. I don't want to completely trash JC but i just think it's time to move on and i would be thrilled to get a #3 pick in the process.

Anderson was good a couple of seasons ago, but stats-wise JC played better than him and Russell last season. And while yes, stats are not everything (a blasphemy for GTripp), I'm sure a number of QB-starved teams would focus on that (just has some teams fall in love with combine results).

That being said, while I would definitely welcome a good draft pick for Campbell, I don't think we necessarily need to part ways with him. Other people are in charge now (not Vinny or Snyder) and even if we draft Bradford or Clausen, we need a QB to start right away so we don't throw a rook QB into the fire.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by celts32

Because he hasn't really done much. He will probably never be more then a pretty good player. Russell is worthless but why would JC be worth more then Derek Anderson? Anderson had a season a couple years ago that was better then anything JC has done. I don't want to completely trash JC but i just think it's time to move on and i would be thrilled to get a #3 pick in the process.

A pretty good player at the quarterback position though should grab more in a trade than a pretty good player at the defensive tackle position, for example.

I would propose that Campbell has had three better seasons than Anderson's best, but I'm probably overrating Campbell's 2007 in doing that (he had some talent around him that year, probably comparable to what Anderson had). Anderson more or less has three good games in his career, and those haven't weathered the test of time.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by DIE-NASTY

a 3 and a 5? I think I'd rather keep the guy. He has shown flashes that he can play at a high level. Let's assemble a real NFL-caliber offensive line. Who knows if the guys we pick by trading JC to Buff will pan out.

The guy we would be trading for is an excellent FS. Which we need. Then you'd have the team drafting a QB ... Bradford or Clausen, and most likely picking up someone who is a younger Vet then Collins and can run a WCO or Shanahan's system. Then as you know there's the Pineapple Jesus.

[SmootSmack]

Well, I would guess that the 5th is conditional for 2011 and could move up depending on how Campbell plays.

[DIE-NASTY]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, I would guess that the 5th is conditional for 2011 and could move up depending on how Campbell plays.

that isn't encouraging. the bills suck!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by DIE-NASTY

that isn't encouraging. the bills suck!

That maybe true, but the conditional would be based on Campbells performance and he has managed good numbers behind this line, he ought to do as well behind theirs.
Not sold on the trade, but I am really open to whatever BA/MS do if they think it is the best for the Skins.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, I would guess that the 5th is conditional for 2011 and could move up depending on how Campbell plays.

Just curious, but if there is a work stoppage in 2011 would we lose a conditional pick or would it be moved to 2012?

[tryfuhl]

3rd and a conditional 5th wouldn't be bad

could see Whitner come here.. what if we sent them someone?

[DIE-NASTY]

why draft a rookie qb this year? We'll have to pay him Stafford type money and he won't have a very good line in front of him. We should address the o-line this year with our first overall pick and probably our second and then draft a qb next year when if and when the rookie cap is instituted. Our line will be more seasoned (sanchez played pretty well all things considered behind a good o-line, stafford got the crap kicked out of him because their line is about as bad as ours) and we wont have to pay some PROSPECT Peyton Manning money. And who knows, if we upgrade our line and we keep JC, maybe he plays much better and we resign him which would negate the need to use a high pick in next year's draft on a QB.
Sorry, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse but it makes me feel better.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by DIE-NASTY

why draft a rookie qb this year? We'll have to pay him Stafford type money and he won't have a very good line in front of him. We should address the o-line this year with our first overall pick and probably our second and then draft a qb next year when if and when the rookie cap is instituted. Our line will be more seasoned (sanchez played pretty well all things considered behind a good o-line, stafford got the crap kicked out of him because their line is about as bad as ours) and we wont have to pay some PROSPECT Peyton Manning money. And who knows, if we upgrade our line and we keep JC, maybe he plays much better and we resign him which would negate the need to use a high pick in next year's draft on a QB.
Sorry, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse but it makes me feel better.

Maybe Bradford will need surgery on his other shoulder from the pounding he will take if the OL is not addressed.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Maybe Bradford will need surgery on his other shoulder from the pounding he will take if the OL is not addressed.

How did Drew Brees's injured shoulder turn out for the Saints?