Jon Gruden's QB Camp

[murphy196]

Very interesting article about McShay

[warpaint]

Jimmy Clausen threw his coaches under the bus, for the michigan game because he called 4 time out and had a delay of game because he said the coaches took to long to call the plays. I tell you he is a me first, piss on you type of guy.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Jimmy Clausen threw his coaches under the bus, for the michigan game because he called 4 time out and had a delay of game because he said the coaches took to long to call the plays. I tell you he is a me first, piss on you type of guy.

I've been saying it ALL DAY LONG. I was actually kind of surprised how many people around here took issue with it. I felt like I was dodging a shooting gallery after my initial comments.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I've been saying it ALL DAY LONG. I was actually kind of surprised how many people around here took issue with it. I felt like I was dodging a shooting gallery after my initial comments.

Hey, I guess its true when they say love is blind.

[jdc65]

If the Skins waste a pick on a QB this year, I will be ticked. They only have 4 picks, and McNabb better be here for at least 3-4 years. I will have lost confidence if they pick a QB this year, especially after the McNabb move. I am holding onto my faith, but I must admit, it is slipping away like sand in an hourglass.

[BleedBurgundy]

Watching this now... thought Gruden went a little easy on Tebow, but that's not a shocker. Clausen didn't do himself any favors with the excuses and the constant "mmhmm" answers when he was getting criticized. Also looked like a clown with the pen and notepad. Very contrived, imo. Didn't seem as if he was actually accepting the criticism. Thought McCoy was ok, seemed a little too eager to please I think, liked when he finally started getting a bit defensive about the height and some other nits. Bradford, in my opinion, looked like the best out of the bunch. Seemed to have confidence, while still accepting the criticism.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Watching this now... thought Gruden went a little easy on Tebow, but that's not a shocker. Clausen didn't do himself any favors with the excuses and the constant "mmhmm" answers when he was getting criticized. Also looked like a clown with the pen and notepad. Very contrived, imo. Didn't seem as if he was actually accepting the criticism. Thought McCoy was ok, seemed a little too eager to please I think, liked when he finally started getting a bit defensive about the height and some other nits. Bradford, in my opinion, looked like the best out of the bunch. Seemed to have confidence, while still accepting the criticism.

Eager to please is what some down here would call Southern manners. That's just how Colt is, from what I've witnessed over the past few years. He's neither a cocky little shit like Claussen nor a this-guy-can't-be-serious square like Tebow.

I'm sure he's defensive because he's tired of hearing how he isn't going to be any good as a pro or was just a system guy at UT. I think people forget how good this guy is because he had one tough game against Nebraska (and lest anyone forget, the Longhorns had NO run game and gameplanned for that purpose with a guy some are calling the most dominant defensive player in a generation) and of course the stinger/numb arm thing in the Championship game.

Case in point, everyone down here was walking around going "man, what is wrong with Colt this year?" when the dude was en route to a 3500/27/12 season with 70% completion percentage.

Fair bit of (adoptive) homerism going on here, but I've seen my fair share of both Bradford and McCoy down here and I think Colt is going to surprise a lot of people if he gets a real opportunity. Based on the LCF formula, he's got a legitimate shot, if you subscribe to such notions.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by dgack

Fair bit of (adoptive) homerism going on here, but I've seen my fair share of both Bradford and McCoy down here and I think Colt is going to surprise a lot of people if he gets a real opportunity. Based on the LCF formula, he's got a legitimate shot, if you subscribe to such notions.

You and me both, plus hat tip to the Lewin Career Forecast mention.

I was decided on McCoy before I plugged him in to a formula though. He's always going to be dependent on his system for opportunity, and in that light, he's not a true franchise passer, but he's a rare talent in a specific role. There won't be a guy like him in the next decade.

[SmootSmack]

Mentioned their names before but John Skelton and Jonathan Crompton are getting a lot of buzz lately as a possible Saturday draft choice for the Skins...which of course means Shanahan will take Tony Pike

[SmootSmack]

Yeah, physical therapist.

Never met Rome. He's out in LA

[JLee9718]

The Gruden QB interviews were excellent! I would love for Tebow to fall enough so that the Redskins could draft him. We just don't have enough picks, thanks to Vinny and Joe Gibbs.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by JLee9718

The Gruden QB interviews were excellent! I would love for Tebow to fall enough so that the Redskins could draft him. We just don't have enough picks, thanks to Vinny and Joe Gibbs.

I'm not sure any of Joe Gibbs moves have a direct impact on the 2010 draft.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by jlee9718

the gruden qb interviews were excellent! I would love for tebow to fall enough so that the redskins could draft him. We just don't have enough picks, thanks to vinny and joe gibbs.

no dissing joe gibbs.

[rbanerjee23]

I don't know if any of you guys read MMQB by Peter King but he is really echoing the thoughts on here.

Gruden's show the other night on ESPN -- "SportsCenter Special: Gruden's QB Camp'' -- was beyond good, and informative. I've been around him when he's teaching and coaching (a couple of times, he's been teaching me), and the four top quarterbacks in the draft recently sat with him individually and watched tape. Jimmy Clausen, ultra-confident, also looked like a worker bee, writing down everything Gruden said. McCoy was so ticked at himself for hanging onto the ball too long on the pocket (and well he should be). Gruden was in his element, and I'd strongly recommend the network figure out some way to brand him and do these things again. Often.

I would definitely watch that show if it were something regular

[MTK]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

I don't know if any of you guys read MMQB by Peter King but he is really echoing the thoughts on here.

Gruden's show the other night on ESPN -- "SportsCenter Special: Gruden's QB Camp'' -- was beyond good, and informative. I've been around him when he's teaching and coaching (a couple of times, he's been teaching me), and the four top quarterbacks in the draft recently sat with him individually and watched tape. Jimmy Clausen, ultra-confident, also looked like a worker bee, writing down everything Gruden said. McCoy was so ticked at himself for hanging onto the ball too long on the pocket (and well he should be). Gruden was in his element, and I'd strongly recommend the network figure out some way to brand him and do these things again. Often.

I would definitely watch that show if it were something regular

Yeah I can see a weekly show where he just sits and reviews film with a different QB each week. Maybe get on the field for a bit and have them demonstrate some things. That would be great TV.

Imagine him breaking down film with someone like P. Manning? Wow