Shanahan: Williams is a natural for zone-blocking scheme

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by warpaint

The whole thing about his work ethic doesnt mean anything. At the Pro level they work about 12 plus hrs. a day, in college they are limited to what they can do. So once he comes in it will be in the hands of the coaches to bring his best out of him. So the whole work ethic thing doesn't mean anything...yet.

I really hope Kelly shares a LOT about his rookie year. Seems like Williams would really hear what he has to say when he is telling him about the NFL.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I really hope Kelly shares a LOT about his rookie year. Seems like Williams would really hear what he has to say when he is telling him about the NFL.

What is he going to share? I had this coach who didn't want to play rookies because thats how things were when he played? Besides receiver is such a hard position to transition and project. Especially when you don't have a franchise QB nor a competent offensive playcaller. Left Tackle, usually you either have it or you don't.

[CRedskinsRule]

I don't know, but basically just the basic concept that at the NFL level there are no pattycake DE's and that it's a full time job. It was mainly in response to the work ethic.

[Hamoskinz]

Great thread. I'm coming around on TW and its great to read Shanny's thoughts on TW being a natural in the ZBS.

[diehard]

The burning question is: If Trent Williams was so good, Why did he get moved to center? It doesn't make sense to move your starting senior LT inside, no matter who's injured there unless he was a liability outside.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by diehard

The burning question is: If Trent Williams was so good, Why did he get moved to center? It doesn't make sense to move your starting senior LT inside, no matter who's injured there unless he was a liability outside.

I think it is also a liability to play someone at center that doesn't know what the hell they are doing. This guy can play several positions, and that's always a plus.

Oh and I don't think this is much of a burning question.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by diehard

The burning question is: If Trent Williams was so good, Why did he get moved to center? It doesn't make sense to move your starting senior LT inside, no matter who's injured there unless he was a liability outside.

I have to ask....do you think that the...Shanny's, Bruce, etc were unaware of this in their evaluations?

[MTK]

His ability to slide over to center should be seen as a big plus. That's not an easy thing to do at all.

[ethat001]

Just wanted to tip my hat to our very own Trent Williams by bumping this thread. I thought he did wonderfully for his first game, even if he says he was "nervous" the entire time.

In comparison, Sam Bradford found himself hit repeatedly in his first game due to poor LT play from Jason Smith, the Ram's last year's first round pick (#2 overall). Admittedly, we were playing the Bills..

Sam Bradford fine, but he needs protection

August 15, 2010 at 12am

Unfortunately for Bradford, right tackle Jason Smith could not block backup Minnesota Vikings defensive end Jayme Mitchell, a player whose most recent regular-season sack came in 2007 (one of 4.0 career sacks for Mitchell). It's not good when the player St. Louis drafted second overall in 2009 cannot prevent an NFL backup from roughing up the new franchise quarterback. But there were mitigating factors. Smith has missed time to injury lately. He improved significantly through the course of the preseason a year ago, and he has time to do the same this summer.

Perhaps this was merely an off night for Smith, but I came out of this game with more questions about Smith's pass protection than about Bradford's poise or potential. Consider it a reminder that quarterbacks, though increasingly important as the NFL becomes more pass-oriented, still need considerable support to function, let alone flourish.

Bradford's third and final series of the first half went like this:
First down: Mitchell drives Smith off the ball, raises his hands and bats down Bradford's pass.

Second down: Mitchell beats Smith again, disrupting Bradford and collecting a half-sack on the play.

Third down: Mitchell beats Smith for a full sack this time.

Sam Bradford fine, but he needs protection - NFC West Blog - ESPN

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Just wanted to tip my hat to our very own Trent Williams by bumping this thread. I thought he did wonderfully for his first game, even if he says he was "nervous" the entire time.

In comparison, Sam Bradford found himself hit repeatedly in his first game due to poor LT play from Jason Smith, the Ram's last year's first round pick (#2 overall). Admittedly, we were playing the Bills..

The Bills did manage to beat us on our home turf a few years back...

And regarding that article about Jason Smith getting beaten, it could be that Jayme Mitchell has found a spark and might be the next Jared Allen.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Just wanted to tip my hat to our very own Trent Williams by bumping this thread. I thought he did wonderfully for his first game, even if he says he was "nervous" the entire time.

In comparison, Sam Bradford found himself hit repeatedly in his first game due to poor LT play from Jason Smith, the Ram's last year's first round pick (#2 overall). Admittedly, we were playing the Bills..

Smith has somehow played so poorly that he's now a backup RT. Still I mean what should St. Louis have done? They already invested the #2 pick last year in Smith and then went back this year and made what looks to be a pretty nice pick in Saffold, who ironically is playing to the level they expected Smith to be playing at. Oh well, we'll probably trade for Smith with a 5th round pick in a year or two.

[SirClintonPortis]

And to think a significant portion of Redskins fans were perfectly content to just go ahead draft a QB on the HOPE that Shanahan would pull some magic trick out of his hat for the bunch of mediocre or bad players we had kept over from the past year and develop them into a Chris Samuels caliber players. I'm so happy that they have had the mental snot knocked out of them with the T. Williams pick and the Jammal Brown trade. Sometimes you gotta spend big to get big talent. No more cheapskate Vinny philosophy to building an Oline.

And I'm glad Shanny has once again hit on his talent evaluation.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

And to think a significant portion of Redskins fans were perfectly content to just go ahead draft a QB on the HOPE that Shanahan would pull some magic trick out of his hat for the bunch of mediocre or bad players we had kept over from the past year and develop them into a Chris Samuels caliber players. I'm so happy that they have had the mental snot knocked out of them with the T. Williams pick and the Jammal Brown trade. Sometimes you gotta spend big to get big talent. No more cheapskate Vinny philosophy to building an Oline.

And I'm glad Shanny has once again hit on his talent evaluation.

What we have here is a case of immediate gratification. You could very well end up being right but you're judging the entire direction of a franchise based on one week of preseason games. Am I happy with who we got this offseason? You're damn right I am.

However it's possible that we could be back to square one in 3-5 years looking for another QB all the while Bradford has the Rams in the playoff hunt on an annual basis.

Also hypothetically speaking we still could have traded for Jamaal Brown at around the same price we got him for this year, and at this point Jamaal Brown is a much better LT then Williams. It's just that Shanahan would rather put Trent in this position from the get go.

All in all I'm ecstatic to have Trent, and even happier to have McNabb but it's way to early to say we would have been making a mistake had Bradford fell into our laps. All in all you still win in this league with QB play, we were just lucky that the Eagles brass decided to go on a bender during Easter Weekend and trade us McNabb (same with Jamaal Brown). I wouldn't count on that type of luck repeating itself.

[Ruhskins]

Yeah it is too early, we have to re-visit this when Bradford is on IR.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yeah it is too early, we have to re-visit this when Bradford is on IR.

LOL